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Old 01-25-2016, 08:35 AM
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i would like to see at least some strength gains, maybe some muscle gain, leaning out a little. Im not expecting too much. This isnt my first cycle. Ive gotten better results thus far from deca
what you running again as in tren dose and test dose
also why not leave it EOD 100mg instead of Ed 50mg

also for mass and strength I am fan of deca myself and found always gained most on it but could also be lot of water but it don't give you the same look as tren
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what you running again as in tren dose and test dose
also why not leave it EOD 100mg instead of Ed 50mg

also for mass and strength I am fan of deca myself and found always gained most on it but could also be lot of water but it don't give you the same look as tren
ran 300mg tren for the first 2 weeks. Just bumped it up to 350 for the 3rd week. test im running 80mg twice a week.
and im shooting ED to keep sides minimal and levels as even as possible and to make the dosing simpler
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hmmm how is your diet? are you eating enough?
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hmmm how is your diet? are you eating enough?
gained around 8 pounds since i started, 4k calories a day
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Yea, I read Tren was way stronger than Test E, so I'd expect to get good results as long as you're eating enough and your sessions are on point.

I guess the best thing to do would be adjust food intake, and training. You certainly should see results from tren.

When I did test e it was my first cycle, and I ate way more than I needed too, considering I had put plenty of body fat on and I still seen simular gains off of 300 less cals per week. I think I've found my maintance stage, because I'm not gaining or losing weight right now.

I'm eating healthy.

That's the only suggestion I can think of. Would blood work help you find the solution?
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I pinned 200mg tren E a few times in the last three weeks with around the same of test E and my blood pressure has gone through the roof! Haven't pinned anything at all for a week and won't be going do until its back to haha normal.

I'm giving blood in 4 days so that should lower my hemacrit/RBC levels. Apart from that I've knocked sugary carbs on the head, been eating loads of beetroot, taken fish oil, 3000mg magnesium and potassium daily and loads if vitamin C. I'll be eating 4ozs celery daily as of tomorrow.

My blood pressure has reduced from an average 144/93 to around 136/90. Still not normal for me yet tho. It was averaging 132/83 a month or so ago. The problem with doing everything at once is that I don't what, if anything is lowering it or whether it's just the tren leaving my system and to he honest I can't be totally sure it's the tren that's caused it. It's just too much of a coincidence to presume it's not.

I appreciate you won't want to lower carbs just now. So I'd start with 3g of potassium and magnesium daily and up your fish oil and see if that helps. It won't be an instant result though.

I've also bought a load of coQ10 and will taking 100mg ED for at least 3 months. This is supposed to more or less guarantee to lower it.

I'll start a proper thread on blood pressure soon and post my experience. I'm quite anal at researching and then recording what happens.

Good luck and as far as I'm concerned neither of us is close to being too worried yet. My immediate concern is passing a medical for my job, so I need to get it down fairly quick. After that I can chill out and look for longer term solutions.
Holy crap. Is that high. Even on test e mine never went higher that 120/70. I think I averaged 116/68 or 69. I'm usually at around 116/65 now.
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gained around 8 pounds since i started, 4k calories a day
Well that's a lot more than I eat, and I'm only 192 pounds right now. So...
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Well that's a lot more than I eat, and I'm only 192 pounds right now. So...
I'm 222-225 right now. Not sure what else to do besides keep waiting. Maybe my body just metabolizes it much slower. I've read people not notice much till week 4. So we will see. I did notice veins in my quads this morning, and a friend asked if I was getting skinnier. Even though I'm much heavier. Because they could see my abs better
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I think you're heading very nicely in the right direction. If I compare photos of me running test only with tren and test I look a fair bit bigger on just test but I know that's deceptive. I was a lot stronger on the tren with much less water.

It's just different.

You'll be very glad you ran this cycle by the time you've finished.

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I think you're heading very nicely in the right direction. If I compare photos of me running test only with tren and test I look a fair big bigger on just test but I know that's deceptive. I was a lot stronger on the tren and much less water.

Its just different.

You'll be very glad you ran this cycle by the time you've finished.
I really hope so, I was hoping I responded well and could just run test and ten tren instead of deca, but we will see
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