best cutting/lean bulking cycle for a newbie - Steroids Source Talk

jordan0689 · #1 (**permalink**) 04-11-2011, 07:35 AM

I'm coming to the end of my dbol only cycle. I have enjoyed the strength gains and weight gain aswell. After the necassery time off I want to cut up but try and lean bulk with it aswell.
I'm thinking about a test e course. But I wanted to know what your suggestions would be for cutting and lean bulking?

gym66 · #2 (**permalink**) 04-11-2011, 02:20 PM

it is possible to keep your strength and muscle size while you are cutting. but it is unlikely you will be able to gain any muscle. you need to pick one or the other ether bulk or cut. when you cut you are in a cal. deficit making it pretty much impossible to add any muscle. what is your bf%.

Cornish_Celt · #3 (**permalink**) 04-11-2011, 03:08 PM

gym66 is right mate unless you go for something like Primobolan which is the only steroid that will build muscle on a calorific deficit, But then your going to be spending a hell of a lot of money on the cycle.
You wanted to do Test E as your next cycle so do it as a bulker then do the cut at a later date

jan32 · #4 (**permalink**) 04-11-2011, 05:00 PM

as cc said do a cut later do a few bulks first but as a newbie best advice is when ur not training read read and read theres loads of info on here. but your saying u want lean bulk. I find i hold less water with sust pinning twice a week. but alot of people think test e is the better product u could add some winny tabs in the last six weeks of ur cycle this would help balance out there water retention and help harden the muscle your gaining.

jordan0689 · #5 (**permalink**) 04-11-2011, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornish_Celt

gym66 is right mate unless you go for something like Primobolan which is the only steroid that will build muscle on a calorific deficit, But then your going to be spending a hell of a lot of money on the cycle.
You wanted to do Test E as your next cycle so do it as a bulker then do the cut at a later date

Oki cc. I was just thinking because it's the summer months coming up. So you think it will be fine to bulk again for a minute. I just don't want to get a fat gut haha.

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Originally Posted by jan32

as cc said do a cut later do a few bulks first but as a newbie best advice is when ur not training read read and read theres loads of info on here. but your saying u want lean bulk. I find i hold less water with sust pinning twice a week. but alot of people think test e is the better product u could add some winny tabs in the last six weeks of ur cycle this would help balance out there water retention and help harden the muscle your
gaining.

cheers mate thanks for the info. I will stick to test e maybe chuck some clen in aswelll. I'm not sure on my bf percentage I don't have calipers.

jordan0689 · #6 (**permalink**) 04-11-2011, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gym66

it is possible to keep your strength and muscle size while you are cutting. but it is unlikely you will be able to gain any muscle. you need to pick one or the other ether bulk or cut. when you cut you are in a cal. deficit making it pretty much impossible to add any muscle. what is your bf%.

sorry dude I dint know my bf. And thanks for the reply

Talon07 · #7 (**permalink**) 04-12-2011, 03:00 PM

I would run Test P instead of E less water weight..My first cutter was primo Test P and Var

eazy · #8 (**permalink**) 04-12-2011, 03:15 PM

PRIMO all the way

jordan0689 · #9 (**permalink**) 04-12-2011, 07:05 PM

How expensive is primo compared to test e ?

Cornish_Celt · #10 (**permalink**) 04-12-2011, 07:16 PM

it would cost you about £50 a week for primo and about £10 for Test E!!!