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AAS can have deleterious effects on blood cholesterol levels, this leads to a decrease in HDL (good) cholesterol and increase in LDL (bad) cholesterol, this effects everyone differently, some have it worst then others.
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AAS can have deleterious effects on blood cholesterol levels, this leads to a decrease in HDL (good) cholesterol and increase in LDL (bad) cholesterol, this effects everyone differently, some have it worst then others.

This is obviously a well established fact, however, a good diet (a natural, low sugar, low flour, fat rich diet) should help out.

Being in good overall health will mitigate most of the problems associated with AAS use.

And look after your liver and kidneys. They are vital to good health.

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What am I missing, every source I can find says your numbers should be WAY higher. Did you just start? Was the 1500 the max the lab would detect? The doctor could have seen it was off the charts?

Think about this.

Dude, the average adult male is 270-1,070 (ng/dL)

That sounds way too low for how much gear you're on. 1g of test e per week, and Tbol.

I'm told by quite a few sources 600mg per week should bring your levels to almost double what they are. You're on 1000mg, plus Tbol.

Ive seen some say they get a factor of ten, which is 500mg = 5000 ng/dL.

There are some great sources for this online.
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What am I missing, every source I can find says your numbers should be WAY higher. Did you just start? Was the 1500 the max the lab would detect? The doctor could have seen it was off the charts?

Think about this.

Dude, the average adult male is 270-1,070 (ng/dL)

That sounds way too low for how much gear you're on. 1g of test e per week, and Tbol.

I'm told by quite a few sources 600mg per week should bring your levels to almost double what they are. You're on 1000mg, plus Tbol.

Ive seen some say they get a factor of ten, which is 500mg = 5000 ng/dL.

There are some great sources for this online.
Yes, just recently started because I had to get my colitis under control first. Look up colitis. It a very difficult condition to deal with.
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Yes, just recently started because I had to get my colitis under control first. Look up colitis. It a very difficult condition to deal with.

Oh, ok. It takes some time to build up. Because that test number should be a lot higher. I do know some test stop at 1500, which would explain it too.

I read one guy blood was 3500 plus off of 750mg per week. At 1g and Tbol, I imagine your test should be pretty high.
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Oh, ok. It takes some time to build up. Because that test number should be a lot higher. I do know some test stop at 1500, which would explain it too.

I read one guy blood was 3500 plus off of 750mg per week. At 1g and Tbol, I imagine your test should be pretty high.
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Another very important variable is the person's age. I'm in my mid to late 40's. I'm not a young dude! When I wasn't on gear the doctor did Testosterone test because I told him I felt tired. At that time my Test blood work back back in the range of 560. I asked him if its low and he said it's in the normal acceptable range. So now my Testosterone is 1500 plus and the doctor freaked out on the change. He's not stupid he knows I'm taking something.
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Another very important variable is the person's age. I'm in my mid to late 40's. I'm not a young dude! When I wasn't on gear the doctor did Testosterone test because I told him I felt tired. At that time my Test blood work back back in the range of 560. I asked him if its low and he said it's in the normal acceptable range. So now my Testosterone is 1500 plus and the doctor freaked out on the change. He's not stupid he knows I'm taking something.
Oh I get that. 1500 is high. I'm just saying, on the level of gear you are doing, it's gonna get a lot higher. Or it should.

Let's be sure I understand what you're doing.

You said you were doing 4cc right? Is that every week then? If not, then my numbers are wrong.

But assuming you are, and it's 250mg per cc/ml, that's a whole gram of test e every week. Plus Tbol. I'll be honest, that's a lot of test. My first cycle I did half that, and my second I did half and some tren.

1000mg of test e every week should bring your test levels up real high.

That is a great deal of unnatural testosterone. Remember, trt dose is much lower.

However, this only happens after it builds up.
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