Oh, ok. It takes some time to build up. Because that test number should be a lot higher. I do know some test stop at 1500, which would explain it too.

I read one guy blood was 3500 plus off of 750mg per week. At 1g and Tbol, I imagine your test should be pretty high.

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Mr Jedi ...
Another very important variable is the person's age. I'm in my mid to late 40's. I'm not a young dude! When I wasn't on gear the doctor did Testosterone test because I told him I felt tired. At that time my Test blood work back back in the range of 560. I asked him if its low and he said it's in the normal acceptable range. So now my Testosterone is 1500 plus and the doctor freaked out on the change. He's not stupid he knows I'm taking something.

Oh I get that. 1500 is high. I'm just saying, on the level of gear you are doing, it's gonna get a lot higher. Or it should.

Let's be sure I understand what you're doing.

You said you were doing 4cc right? Is that every week then? If not, then my numbers are wrong.

But assuming you are, and it's 250mg per cc/ml, that's a whole gram of test e every week. Plus Tbol. I'll be honest, that's a lot of test. My first cycle I did half that, and my second I did half and some tren.

1000mg of test e every week should bring your test levels up real high.

That is a great deal of unnatural testosterone. Remember, trt dose is much lower.

However, this only happens after it builds up.

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Maybe someone can correct me if I'm reading this wrong, but I'm a fairly intelligent person. I don't think I missing something here.

If normal is 500-700, then 1500 doesn't seem all that high. A 19 year old male can have around 1000 without AAS.

So a study I read used these numbers for a baselined 7 days after the single injection. So tested after one pin. This means this was the lowest numbers they should expect a week after they pin. (Granted other factors at play, but I'm not sure it should vary too far.)

I posted a link to the study below at the bottom.

25mg of test a week- T level was 253ng/dl
50mg of test a week- T level was 306ng/dl
125mg of test a week- T level was 542ng/dl
300mg of test a week- T level was 1,345ng/dl
600mg of test a week- lT level was 2,370 ng/dl

Now from my research, see how 600mg a week brought the test subject up to almost 1000 more than what the doctor claimed you had.

However, I asked a Dr. on another forum what the general rule is, and he said general rule of thumb is this: 200 mg - 700 mg per week, should give you about a factor of ten.

So, the high range for a 500 mg per week is 5000 ng/dl.

That's higher than the above study showed. So whatever. But everything I can find tells me your test levels should go really higher. I'm getting my blood work done, so I'll soon know what mine is and I'll post them.

Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men | Endocrinology and Metabolism

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We are all considered to be, the end user. So as an end user it pretty obvious I'm simply telling the truth with my blood work post here and the numbers the doctors told me. That being said, your inplication is that the juice and or the pills are weak and not up to par. This is the only way one would intreperate your information replies. I'll contact my doctor office to ask him about my Test numbers again but I'm almost certain he said it was in the high 1500 range.

could you ask for exact level

is it possible the chart he used was only upto 1500 and all can say was above that level

What exactly should I say so there is no confusion .