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Test E: 750mg wk
Deca: 400mg wks 1-6
Winstrol: 20mg ED wks 1-6
Primo: 200mg wk wks 7-12
Not completely sure of this cycle.
Any suggestions?

Also, I have HCG for PCT as well as Nolva and Clomid on hand if needed.
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Test E: 750mg wk
Deca: 400mg wks 1-6
Winstrol: 20mg ED wks 1-6
Primo: 200mg wk wks 7-12
Not completely sure of this cycle.
Any suggestions?

Also, I have HCG for PCT as well as Nolva and Clomid on hand if needed.
what up OG.
First off what stats and cycle history do you have, are you looking to bulk or cut ??

With bf over 10% primo is not a good choice , also stana dries out joints alot the deca will help with that but i would still be careful.

Hcg should be run through out the cycle not during pct , start from week 4 all the way through till 4-5 days prior to pct at 250iu twice a week
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Hey OG!
Thats the sort of cycle I would do!(probably more test if I'm honest, lol)
As said above I would use the HCG through the cycle.
I'm not a fan of PCT especially when it comes to Clomid, to me there's just too many sides!
Personally I would just taper down to a low dose over 3 or 4 weeks and then recover naturally, thats how I've always done it and no problems to date!
I would definately keep the Primo in, I love Primo as you know, I would possibly use it for longer maybe 8 to 10 weeks to get the full advantages from it.
Primobolan depot happens to have another plus, the drug is particularly excellent for use as the last injectable in a cycle, since for any given anabolic effect it gives much less inhibition of your natural testosterone production than other steroids such as testosterone, nandrolone, or tren. Therefore, residual levels of Primobolan can allow recovery of your natural test levels as you taper off your cycle while still offering useful anti-catabolic or even anabolic support.
Primobolan Depot is also used effectively during bulking phases of training. The addition of testosterone, Dianabol or Anadrol prove quite effective for adding new muscle mass. Of course when stacked with those three, we would have to deal with estrogenic side effects, but in such cases Primobolan should allow the user to take a much lower dosage of the more "toxic" drugs and still receive acceptable results.

Hope this helps bro!
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Hi CC!
Thanks for the advice!
Greatly Appreciated!!
Stats are:
47yo
225 b/f: around 15-20%, could be higher honestly, I'm just not sure.
Looking to cut up more than bulk up really, although a bit more bulking is needed in my case now.
This will be my second cycle in the last 14 months.. First one went well and had good results with test and HGH.
Looking to keep on this one a bit longer.
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So here's my new thoughts on this cycle:
Test E: 750mg wk
Deca: 400mg wks 1-6
Winstrol: 20mg ED wks 1-5
Primo: 200mg wk wks 6-12
HCG: 500IU wk

I am a bit concerned with Winny sides as its hard on the liver, plus Im taking the winny in oral form. I'll add LIV 52 for that as well.
I like the idea of little or no PCT like Nolva or Clomid, as Im just not a fan of either. This will be my first time with HCG though.
I'll keep my progress updated in a log here.
Thanks again CC!
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think u will be fine with that winny dose as its on the LOW side i use
25mgs /day all the time with no sides at all till week 4 and it give me acne...

when i raise it to 50mgs i get slightly sore joints ...


i was always told to run deca for at least 12 weeks
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Good point, I have heard the same with Deca.
I can run it the duration of the cycle and see how it goes.
Thanks again for the good advice.
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Test E: 750mg 1-12 wk
Deca: 400mg 1-12wks
Winstrol: 20-50mg ( see how you feel play with it abit ) ED wks 1-5
Primo: 200mg -400mgs wk 1-12
HCG: 500IU wk



here is my suggestions

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now thats defo my kind of cycle!!!
Looks much better with the long duration for deca and primo too.
tbh i hadn't even noticed that the deca in the first cycle was only six weeks, I just assumed when it said test and deca that it would be the same, lol!
I really should learn to read!!!
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Excellent!
Thanks again for all the good advice.
Ill post my gains and progress as well.
Liv 52 on the way now as well, I am gtg!
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