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I understand that pip is part of the process. emotional integrity, preparation or experience levels has nothing to do with the reaction that Me and a small percentage of people experience. I'm not a vet but but I've pinned myself enough to know the difference between pip and what I experienced. I'm not bashing kalpa or any sponsors. I endured the pain for twelve weeks with good results but for people to tell me that large knots and swelling in my gluts for days after i pin is a normal reaction and call it pip is just nonsense!

You are correct, this isn't normal. There are many products that do exist that cause no pain or knots. I have never had a problem with HG(human grade) gear. Keep trying, there are products out there.