[latisimo]

I understand that pip is part of the process. emotional integrity, preparation or experience levels has nothing to do with the reaction that Me and a small percentage of people experience. I'm not a vet but but I've pinned myself enough to know the difference between pip and what I experienced. I'm not bashing kalpa or any sponsors. I endured the pain for twelve weeks with good results but for people to tell me that large knots and swelling in my gluts for days after i pin is a normal reaction and call it pip is just nonsense!

You are correct, this isn't normal. There are many products that do exist that cause no pain or knots. I have never had a problem with HG(human grade) gear. Keep trying, there are products out there.

[brovo305]

Yes, You really can not go wrong with GBN.
James, I tried different spots and have also heated up my oils. I guess it's just my bodies reaction to this gear. It suck because I like the prices of kalpa.

[HE MANN]

I tend to use quads and rotate them . i have never tried delts, i figure they would hurt more being its a smaller muscle