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slimeball 03-24-2013 11:47 PM

Question about clenbuterol and dosing etc
 
Hey Everyone. I'm new to the forums. I'm 16 weigh 222 6'2 height and wanted to do a clenbuterol and T3 (preferably T3 Cytomel) cycle with ketotifens so that i can do the clen 6 weeks straight instead of 3. i wanted to know if someone could tell me the proper dosing and anything else helpful like effects because i know them for older people but for me 16, I'm not sure if that will make anything different. i hope to be 200 or lower maybe 4 weeks into the cycle since i workout 6 times a week and eat relatively healthy. Thanks in advance!

olddog 03-25-2013 12:21 AM

WAY TOO YOUNG!!

at 16 you need to work and pay close attention to diet.

This might not be what you want to hear but take it from an old fart

You have plenty of time to handle things other ways

Diet
Cardio
You are just starting to build Dont screw up your thyroid now You ahve too many years for it to work before you start dosing it

slimeball 03-25-2013 01:52 AM

much thanks for the response and i respect your answer. I do want to see what a view other people think but thanks

Topsy_Krets 03-25-2013 04:22 AM

I highly doubt anyone will give you dosing info on anything other than children's Tylenol knowing how young you are. Like olddog said; you would be way better off focusing on diet and training. Throw in some creatine and whey and you will notice gains close to AAS. Man you have a lot going for you at 16 years old, don't mess it up.

Cornish_Celt 03-25-2013 10:54 AM

You're way too young to start messing around with hormones like T3, T3 has the potential to fuck you up for the rest of your life!

Losing 22lb in 4 weeks will do you no good in the long run, as soon as you stop dieting the weight will go back on extermely quickly.

At 16 you can lose weight quickly just through diet and training, there is no need for drugs like this especially at your age.

Seriously you could end up doing yourself a lot of harm that may not be able to be reversed if you mess it up, in which case you would be taking thyroid medication for the rest of your life, Not pleasant!

slimeball 03-25-2013 09:33 PM

alright everyone thank you. I'm not going to take anything for the reasons you said and mainly that i dont want to get thyroid cancer which i feel could be possible. I had done p90x (pussy shit i know but it was for weight loss) and lost 28lbs in 68 days. i will continue what im doing. i do take creatine and whey protein. i might throw in LG Sciences Rezolution fat burner or Alpha T2 fat burner for a little extra kick. much thanks everyone

Cornish_Celt 03-26-2013 06:25 AM

A very wise descision.
Post up your diet and training routine so we can take a look and maybe help you out a bit

Barman 03-26-2013 04:40 PM

Hey bro you do not need anything at all in the early teen years your hormones are all overthe place you can gain lots of size and drop body fat very fast so take advantage of that now while you can i did and in my first year i went up 16 pounds and i barely new what i was doing same goes for burning fat train hard with a half way good diet drop sugars down watch the results bro :) by the way im 21 (22 in may) now just under 6 years of training ul be fine all that stuff comes much later with time, dedication, vision of what you want and knowledge. :)

slimeball 03-26-2013 10:48 PM

Well again, thanks everyone. Here is my routine not hardcore but i have lots of hw and try to catch the celtics game after school so i try to be wrapping my workout up by 5:30 latest (i get to gym at 3) I have been doing this routine for 5 months and before this was never consistent with training and i have an all cardio week every 6 weeks to avoid plateauing. these workouts and weights are from last weeks weekly routine since i keep a log (3-18-13 to 3-25-13)
Monday: Chest and Shoulders
Flat Bench 3 sets
165x6, 165x5, 165x4 ( i have been stuck on 165 for 3 months now and am really annoyed. any tips to end this)
Close grip 3 sets
140x7, 140x4, 140x4
Decline Bench 3 sets (same problems as flat but not as bad. stuck on weight for a month
140x5, 140x5, 135x9
Incline Bench Machine 3 sets
110x12, 120x7, 120x5
Military Press Machine 3 sets
90x10, 100x7, 100x6
Machine Next to Military Press Machine 3 sets (You strap in with a belt and push weights behind your head for shoulders)
90x4,90x5, 90x6
Dumbbell Side Raise 3 sets
25x10, 25x7, 25x8
Dumbbell Upright Row
50x8, 50x6, 50x5
Cardio: 20 MIN Treadmill

Tuesday: Cardio
Treadmill 45 MIN

Wednesday: Legs and Back
Seated Cable Pull
145x12, 160x8, 160x6
Seated Cable Pull with Wider Piece (not straight bar though)
145x9, 145x9, 145x7
DB Bent Over Row
70x8 Each Arm, 70x8 EA, 70x10L Arm 8 R Arm
Lat Pulldown
130x9, 130x7, 115x12
Lat Pulldown behind neck
145x7, 130x12, 145x3
Lat Pulldown Close Grip
130x12, 145x5, 130x9
Lat Row Machine
80x8, 80x7, 70x12
Barbell Shrugs
195x12, 205x8, 205x9, 210x3, 205x7, 205x7
Barbell Squat
135x12, 145x12, 155x8, 155x8, 155x6
Leg Press
270x8, 270x12, 280x7
Lying Hamstring Machine
115x12, 130x4, 115x8
Other Hamstring Machine (you pull weight towards you with legs)
200x12, 210x12, 220x8
Calfs (I do p90x style with 40lb DB's)
Hyperextensions
25x8, 25x8, 25x5
No Cardio on Leg Day

Thursday: Light Cardio since legs are sore
25 MIN Treadmill

Friday: Bi's Tri's and Forearms
Curls on Machine
130x12, 145x6, 145x4, 130x10
Reverse Curls on Machine
115x12, 130x7, 130x9, 130x6
Hammer Curls with DB's
40x9 EA, 40X6 EA, 35X12
Preacher Curl Machine
85x12, 90 0 times so 80x4, 80x6, 80x4
Tricep Pulldown W/ Nylon Rope
130x8, 130x6, 115x12, 130x4
Tricep Pullover
115x6 total reps, 100x11 total reps, 100x11 total reps, 115x2 total reps
Tricep Extensions
25x 6 L Arm 8 R Arm, 25x 7 L Arm 6 R Arm, 30x2 EA, 25X8 EA
Forearm Curls (outta 20 reps)
60x12, 60x6, 50x15
Reverse Forearm Curls (outta 15 reps)
50x 2 R Arm 5 L Arm, 50X6 EA, 45X10 EA
Cardio is 20 MIN Treadmill

Saturday: Cardio
45 MIN Treadmill

Sunday : REST DAY

this took a solid hour to type up. Enjoy and comment back please

Topsy_Krets 03-26-2013 11:13 PM

Hey Bro on the stuck at 165 ordeal this is what I recommend. Start at 130 at 10 reps, go to 140 at 8 reps, 150 at 8 reps and lastly do the 165 at 6 reps. Do this for a couple weeks. See if it helps. Someone else may offer some better advice.


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