Honestly man, I have no pointers to give that would probably be considered good advice. I am in no way a pro or credible source. My Personal Trainer is not a nutritionist, so he kind of just taught me what to eat and not how to eat. I have a hard enough time following his workout routine with my work schedule. Couldnt imagine following a specific diet when i leave the gym at 10am and range getting home from work between 7pm and 11pm at night. I am sure our metabolisms work way different, based on some of ur posts too. I don't count calories. I just watch what I eat and how I workout. Seems to work for me. I am kinda curious man cuz u say u weigh about 175lbs., but I weigh 205. I know u said u don't know ur exact body fat, but u act like it is up there. I wanted to hold out until after PCT on this cycle so I had a before and after pic, cuz it makes it more of a surprise to me, but u should post a pic bro. I will do one too if u do. I am kinda curious now with a diet like that... how long have u been doing it?

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My diet has been basically like that for a few months (although I recently simplified it a bunch), and I recently dropped my calories to where they are now. I do think I have a slower running metabolism. It seems that way, but I dont know enough about how it works to say for sure. I am just gonna follow advice given to me during this cycle because I want to get the most out of it, and people that have been having success have been cool enough to give it to me.


Actually, I should of written 172, because in the last few weeks (could be in the last week, I’ve been hungry all the time lately), I lost three pounds.


About the pic. I’ve been debating if I want to or not. It is not about being ashamed or anything. And I dont want this to sound arrogant. I know, I am being paranoid. I couldn’t even begin to explain the things I do to change the way my online presence appears. Lets just say pleonasms are not my norm. :roll eyes:

I’m worried about showing identifying marks. I may do it if I buy photoshop and blur out my very distinguishable tatts and scar, or if I get to using some other software that allows me to do that. So eventually I am sure I will.

LOL, I even had a few friends order my gear for me, well paid them too actually. It was actually their idea. Remember when I first came here, I was so paranoid, it wasn’t as much about the money, although that was some of it, but it was being attached to illegal activities.

It has more to do with my career (media related), and my colleagues all being quality researchers, than anything else.

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lol! U don't got to explain it to me bro. A simple no works. U r definitely paranoid though.

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I just didn't want to be rude.

You must be doing something right. You are 205, and I'm not sure how old, but I thought you said you were young. What's you goal?

Are you planning on competing?

My goal now is 195, but I wouldn't stop. I'd like to get to a decent sized physique model look. And then decide from there.

I don't foresee ever competing in comps. I'm not sure I want to constantly go through what it takes to get your body fat that low. Everyone who does that is very impressive. I imagine it takes some real dedication. I wouldn't mind getting to that low of body fat once o see what it takes.

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Honestly, my goal was to stay below 200, but hey. I guess if my body fat keeps decreasing, I am not gonna complain about the mass increase. I am more here for the fitness and advice aspect I have no intentiom in competing in bodybuilding. I know it is a bodybuilding forum, which I do have an interest in it, but I am not much of a bodybuilder. I used to compete in no gi freestyle grappling when I was younger. I am 26 now. I had some lower back issues and and an issue with my right knee that I incurred over time, unrelated. Between that and some other outside influences it really put my fitness on pause. Slowly getting back in the game, and although I feel I am older then I want to be to participate... I plan to get back into Gracie BJJ real soon. Just making sure I am back up to par, so I don't re-injur myself. I am going for the more define cut look. Trying to increase both my stamina (although I hate cardio) and my strength. I guess if I had a game plan, that would be it.

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There is nothing wrong with those goals. And bodybuilding is a big tent. I mean I see it as a sport, and a life style. I'm into the lifestyle myself, but as of now, I just follow the sport. Maybe someday that goal will change.

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Sounds pretty much how I've lived my life. Size has always been secondary to strength and fitness. It's only recently I've had more of a desire to get bigger. I admire those mass monsters but, gulp, shouldn't really say it here, I don't think it's long term healthy. Sorry mass monsters.