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andyebs 12-01-2015 01:09 PM

deadlift debate
 
deadlift being my fave training

have few points to ask/make

i do mine from floor but how do you do yours
ie
from floor
from rack (like dorian )
or maybe just off ground


another thing i see all the time seems like loads of people do

but bouncing the bar from floor when deadlifting
to me it looks like injury waiting to happen
i always put mind down and lift it DEAD from floor i feel that first explosion of energy is the nuts

whats people thoughts on bouncing the bar off floor

i see people bounce and one side bounces first then the lift is wonky i think this is due to hand placement

also straps
when do you use
i allways use at bigger lifts where i just cant grip it i try untill i just cant or slips
some use right from the off

stillgoingstron 12-01-2015 01:19 PM


Love deadlifts as well. I do first rep off the floor and from just below knee racks. With stiff legged deads I don't ground between reps as I like the stretch, but do for normal deads. I only wear straps when my grip goes. I also found a long time ago that an alternate grip adds another 20% to the weight I can lift without straps.

I never bounce a weight! Ever! Ouch.

hangin 12-01-2015 01:59 PM

Used to do full deads but now from the rack and never bounce. I do stiff leg deadlifts from the floor. The feeling in your or around your nuts could be a hernia that's the same feeling i had when I had one. Straps I used to use but the type of work I do has made my grip and forearm strength insane. I will use them if I'm training to failure

andyebs 12-01-2015 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stillgoingstron (Post 43262)

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I never bounce a weight! Ever! Ouch.

yeah its the bounce i dont get and see so so so many poeple do it

today funny enough was the gyms personal trainer and i thought he tried to dift to much shit form
and bounced it off the floor every lift

stillgoingstron 12-01-2015 03:56 PM

Madness!

Almost guaranteed to pick up a bad injury one day . . . and . . . what's the point?

hangin 12-01-2015 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stillgoingstron (Post 43272)
Madness!

Almost guaranteed to pick up a bad injury one day . . . and . . . what's the point?

Agree form is so important dont get me wrong I've cheated when going heavy on some exercises things like deads squats benching cheating eventually will cause some type of injury

stillgoingstron 12-01-2015 08:08 PM


We all cheat a bit when going too heavy but there's cheating and there's bouncing. And let's be honest, when we cheat we know its an ego thing and not an aid to training. If we cheated all the time we'd get nowhere.

I just wouldn't bounce the bar when deadlifting. Or barbell rows. I might stand up a bit too much for these sometimes but I wouldn't bounce the bar.

andyebs 12-02-2015 09:20 AM

deads and squats i love and if not doing it correct your kidding yourself

also how many poeple seem to have higher bench press than deadlift or squat

person in gym benches 140kg witch is dam good lift
but never seen him deadlift 100kg he simply says he cant go that high
and same person only squats 70kg

everyone seems to have back or knee problems

and im sure back problems due to too much upper body work and lack of lower

and back nowdays is like the legs of the upper body untrained

stillgoingstron 12-02-2015 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by andyebs (Post 43282)
deads and squats i love and if not doing it correct your kidding yourself

also how many poeple seem to have higher bench press than deadlift or squat

person in gym benches 140kg witch is dam good lift
but never seen him deadlift 100kg he simply says he cant go that high
and same person only squats 70kg

everyone seems to have back or knee problems

and im sure back problems due to too much upper body work and lack of lower

and back nowdays is like the legs of the upper body untrained

Definitely agree.

When I was having back problems years ago I stopped squats and deadlifts. It was just too risky. But with hindsight I can't help wondering whether I should have lowered the weight right down and built up some good core strength.

I'll never know but I'm definitely glad they play a big part in my workouts these days. I highly recommend them.


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