My daily intake:

Breakfast:
Protein shake
8oz of Oatmeal
1 pt of Semi skimmed milk
1 glass of orange juice
3oz of grapes

Protein 47, Carbs 219, Fat 20, Total calories 1270

Mid Morning:
10oz of whole wheat bread
4oz of cheese(12% fat)
1 pt of milk
1 banana

Protein 61, Carbs 180, Fat 20, Total calories 1150

Lunch:
8oz of brown rice
10oz of turkey
5oz of vegetables

Protein 83, Carbs 177, Fat 11, Total calories 1180

Mid Afternoon:
5 whole eggs
16oz of baked potatoes
Mixed salad

Protein 41, Carbs 110, Fat 35, Total calories 880

Evening meal:
7oz of cottage cheese
7oz of whole wheat bread
1oz of peanut butter
1 apple
1 Glass of orange juice

Protein 43, Carbs 120, Fat 18, Total calories 860

Before bed:
Protein shake
1 spoon of peanut butter

Protein 40, Carbs 7, Fat 10, Total calories 245

Daily total:
Protein 315, Carbs 813, Fat 114, Total daily calories 5585


My training routine:

Day 1:
Chest and Biceps

Bench press: 3 x 6 - 8
Incline bench press: 2 x 6 - 8
Dips(with added weight): 2 x 8 - 10
Barbell curls: 3 x 6 - 10
Dumbell curls: 2 x 6 - 10

Day 3:
Thighs

Squats: 3 x 6 - 10
Leg press: 2 x 6 - 10
Leg curls: 2 x 8 - 10

Day 5:
Shoulders and Triceps

Press behind neck: 3 x 6 - 8
Upright row: 2 x 6 - 10
Side lat raises: 2 x 8 - 10
Lying triceps press: 3 x 6 - 10
Triceps pushdowns: 2 x 8 - 10

Day 7:
Back and Calves

Chins(with added weight): 3 x 8 - 10
Lat pulldown: 2 x 8 - 10
Bent over rows: 2 x 6 - 10
Seated pulley rows: 2 x 6 - 10
Standing calf raise: 3 x 8 - 12
Seated calf raise: 2 x 8 - 12

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Wow, that is some serious eating. My body does not use calories in that way, but I am only 175 pounds right now.

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Your point about saturated fat is simply economics. What I mean is, in the early 70's Nixon was going for re-election and had various things to overcome. One was food prices, he needed them to go down but to do that he needed the farmers on board. Enter Earl Butz from Indiana who was an academic who started the industrial farming we all now know as the norm. Mostly farmers where encouraged to grow corn and where subsidised for growing it. Grow enough of something for long enough and you have a glut of it, like the EU butter 'mountains' of the 90's etc. Butz along with Japanese scientists came up with High Fructose Corn Syrup, product made from corn. This found it's way into nearly every processed food, pizza, burgers, etc. Everyone was getting fatter and no one saw the link between the two. This is when companies started selling low fat foods, as the claim that high saturated fat foods where to blame. A claim backed by the FDA and the government at the time. Well what where they going to do with all the corn syrup produced? Companies created low fat diets, and added HFCS for flavour, sheen, etc. Simple economics, make money and damned the consquences.

Put it this way in 1966 the average BMI of people over 30 in America sat at 1.2% for men and 1.8% for women. In 1989 it stood at 10.6% for men and 14.0% for women. HFCS and sugar and processed food are the real killers out there. I'm with CC, crack an egg and use it, not out of a bottle. I prefer the whole egg myself but thats just me. Real food and watch your labels. Just saying......

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This is an excellent post from ftblk36

Another point to consider is that the world cannot produce enough animals to feed its population and a way was needed to encourage people to eat produce made from wheat/corn/sugar/etc and what better way than to scaremonger us into avoiding or at least drastically reducing our desire for meat than to publish report after report after scientific study showing that saturated fat and red meat and just about everything about meat is unhealthy!
Seriously! A low fat bagel is better for us that a rib eye steak!!!! No chance.

Thanks stillgoingstrong, gotta keep up with the lies forced upon us. A government anywhere do not want a strong healthy population, weak and subserviant is what they're after. For those in the UK HFCS is known as glucose fructose syrup, you'll be surprised how many foods it's in.

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The Iron is the best antidepressant I have ever found. There is no better way to fight weakness than with strength. Once the mind and body have been awakened to their true potential, it’s impossible to turn back.

Your logic is impeccable.

This is off subject, but I read a study the other day that said that we crave salt (high sodium foods), and this addiction is possibly the root of all our addictions. Which include food addictions, food with high levels of high fructose corn syrups.

I lived next to a company that made that stuff, it's crazy how it's done.

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Interesting. I knew that corn sugar, as they wanted to call it, was a huge contributor. Additionally, after the low fat diet craze, people didn't get any healthier, actually it was almost opposite.

(I'm not trying to be coy, these are meant to get your guys opinion. I just am not always good at remembering to be fastidious. I sometimes forget to offer nuance in written word. Many things I write are meant to be formed as questions, but come out as statements.)

Let me ask this, is the only real reason we should watch fat intake have to do with calories then?

What I mean is, how does fat fit into the mastery of macros? I hear people adjust carbs when cutting, and up their protein. But if fats are not bad, couldn't we get a even larger chunk of our caloric needs from them?

Hypothetically of course.

Many like to use the 40/40/20, but why if fats are ok. How does the body use it I guess would be the answer. Isnt carbs & protein needed for mass? I read the body uses carbs as its preferred source of energy, and then protein.

(I spend entirely too much time reading fitness articles, and need more real world experience and to hear what others do)

Also, I started working on my log tonight, and realized something, much of the food doesn't even list what kind of fat it has. It will say something along the lines of 5g of fat, with 2.5 coming from sat. Nothing about the rest. I'd like to know why that is ok.

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Stop overthinking this and stop trying to follow other diets. Most are written as a starting point. "Listen" to your body it will tell you what you need to know.
Start reading what you're writing before you post, listen to the intonation and make sure you say what you want, that should stop people getting at you and start getting you.
As far as fat content in food, that's all they have to put on labels. Too much information for the public is a BAD thing.

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Follow others diets? Overthinking it? Man, others have claimed I do not think about it enough. Not sure where I ever said I follow anyones diet. I eat the same meal four to five times a day. The discussion was on fat wasn’t it?

To be honest, I could care little for anyone getting at me. I can’t and won’t ever spend a second of my life carrying what negative people have to say. Dude has been entirely unreasonable to anyone asking questions. Has never offered anyone a kind word, and has always taken issue with me, we had a falling out over his hurt feelings. Half the people on forums say read more information, some dont like questions being asked, others do not like it when you offer up products you are using, some dont like PCT, others say it silly to not worry about it.

Sure, there is vast amounts of information on the internet. I ask to gauge what others are thinking, nothing more or nothing less. I then choose which ones I will put stock in and which ones I will decide are erroneous and a waste of time. And I live with the consequences. I am not sure why anyone cares.

I am again not trying to be coy, thanks for your advice, but I did nothing wrong by asking any question I’v ever asked. You and anyone else has the power to just ignore threads.

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Dude, don't mean to poke my nose where it shouldn't be, but r u trying to get banned?

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