New Cycle
 

Test E: 750mg wk
Deca: 400mg wks 1-6
Winstrol: 20mg ED wks 1-6
Primo: 200mg wk wks 7-12
Not completely sure of this cycle.
Any suggestions?

Also, I have HCG for PCT as well as Nolva and Clomid on hand if needed.

what up OG.
First off what stats and cycle history do you have, are you looking to bulk or cut ??

With bf over 10% primo is not a good choice , also stana dries out joints alot the deca will help with that but i would still be careful.

Hcg should be run through out the cycle not during pct , start from week 4 all the way through till 4-5 days prior to pct at 250iu twice a week

Hey OG!
Thats the sort of cycle I would do!(probably more test if I'm honest, lol)
As said above I would use the HCG through the cycle.
I'm not a fan of PCT especially when it comes to Clomid, to me there's just too many sides!
Personally I would just taper down to a low dose over 3 or 4 weeks and then recover naturally, thats how I've always done it and no problems to date!
I would definately keep the Primo in, I love Primo as you know, I would possibly use it for longer maybe 8 to 10 weeks to get the full advantages from it.
Primobolan depot happens to have another plus, the drug is particularly excellent for use as the last injectable in a cycle, since for any given anabolic effect it gives much less inhibition of your natural testosterone production than other steroids such as testosterone, nandrolone, or tren. Therefore, residual levels of Primobolan can allow recovery of your natural test levels as you taper off your cycle while still offering useful anti-catabolic or even anabolic support.
Primobolan Depot is also used effectively during bulking phases of training. The addition of testosterone, Dianabol or Anadrol prove quite effective for adding new muscle mass. Of course when stacked with those three, we would have to deal with estrogenic side effects, but in such cases Primobolan should allow the user to take a much lower dosage of the more "toxic" drugs and still receive acceptable results.

Hope this helps bro!

Hi CC!
Thanks for the advice!
Greatly Appreciated!!
Stats are:
47yo
225 b/f: around 15-20%, could be higher honestly, I'm just not sure.
Looking to cut up more than bulk up really, although a bit more bulking is needed in my case now.
This will be my second cycle in the last 14 months.. First one went well and had good results with test and HGH.
Looking to keep on this one a bit longer.

So here's my new thoughts on this cycle:
Test E: 750mg wk
Deca: 400mg wks 1-6
Winstrol: 20mg ED wks 1-5
Primo: 200mg wk wks 6-12
HCG: 500IU wk

I am a bit concerned with Winny sides as its hard on the liver, plus Im taking the winny in oral form. I'll add LIV 52 for that as well.
I like the idea of little or no PCT like Nolva or Clomid, as Im just not a fan of either. This will be my first time with HCG though.
I'll keep my progress updated in a log here.
Thanks again CC!

think u will be fine with that winny dose as its on the LOW side i use
25mgs /day all the time with no sides at all till week 4 and it give me acne...

when i raise it to 50mgs i get slightly sore joints ...


i was always told to run deca for at least 12 weeks

Good point, I have heard the same with Deca.
I can run it the duration of the cycle and see how it goes.
Thanks again for the good advice.

Test E: 750mg 1-12 wk
Deca: 400mg 1-12wks
Winstrol: 20-50mg ( see how you feel play with it abit ) ED wks 1-5
Primo: 200mg -400mgs wk 1-12
HCG: 500IU wk



here is my suggestions

now thats defo my kind of cycle!!!
Looks much better with the long duration for deca and primo too.
tbh i hadn't even noticed that the deca in the first cycle was only six weeks, I just assumed when it said test and deca that it would be the same, lol!
I really should learn to read!!!

Excellent!
Thanks again for all the good advice.
Ill post my gains and progress as well.
Liv 52 on the way now as well, I am gtg!

good luck with the cycle , im guilty of not reading properly either .
As to the stana it doesn't matter if it's taken orally or IM as it still has to pass through the liver .

The cycle has started.
750mg test e
400mg deca
25 mg winny ed
I will start Primo 400mg/wk in week 5 and continue to pct.
I will also start hcg 500iu/wk in week 4 and continue to just before pct

After week one, great pumps of course. Great amount of fat burning going on as I was taking a bit of Clen for a few weeks prior and just after I started the cycle to shed some pounds. I do cardio every day and have lost 9lbs in the first 10 ten days. Water I'm sure, but Ill take it.
I'm on a very high protein diet right now drinking 4-5 shakes per day as well as eating enough chicken to make Mr Purdue happy. Lots of Tofu and red meat as well. The diet is going great. I've eliminated all of the junk food for a time although I'm sure I'll give in once in a while, but its going very well.
More results soon.

Week 2:
Lost 3 more lbs this week.
Not bad, but hoped for more.
I am training three times per week at great intensity with cardio every day. Up to 3 miles per day on the treadmill.
Strength is getting noticeably better during workouts.
Size is getting more noticeable as time goes on. Slow increments, but its there. Slightly more definition in the shoulders and chest now.
No sides to speak of from the gear.
I have started HCG now as I was a bit paranoid reading the deca side effects stories, lol.
I will start Primo soon and Im looking forward to getting it going.
But for now, test and deca with the winny is doing its job.

Awesome OG im subscribed to your log keep up the good work

Week 3:
Lost 4 lbs this week. More water, lol.
Still no sides from the gear and I am tolerating it well.
Heavy workouts this past week and I'm starting to see strength increases now.
The high protein, low fat diet continues with no problems.
I will start with real measurements soon, such as body fat % and weekly weigh ins.

Week 4:
My first encounter with side effects this week. I had night sweats one night. Really weird feeling, but harmless none the less. I understand why guys get a little freaked when this happens to them. It seemed to me like a hormonal spike would cause this type of thing, but I could be wrong. Right now I pin 3x a week, splitting the gear Monday, Wednesday and Friday, with the hcg on Monday and Friday only. It seems to work best so far with my schedule.
I have raised my Winny dosage to 30mg ed and have had no problems with that at all.
Workouts continue to go well. I have noticed more strength gains this week as well. Definitely noticing cardio gains too. Getting to my target heart rate is getting tougher, lol. Good problem to have.
Diet is great, no problems. Very little weight loss this week. Under one pound. More definition in chest, shoulders and traps this week too.
Abs are next, lol.

Good cycle bro, however I would stop deca 2 weeks prior test. Make some pics before and after, that will keep us motivated and will raise your self-esteem.

keep us posted.

Week 5:
The cycle is going very well. Noticeable strength increases at the gym. I move more weight now than I have in quite some time. Recovery time has been great.
Still only the one episode with sides so far, otherwise, no sides at all.
When I started I weighed 245. I am now 221. Looking much leaner and muscular than I was a few months ago.
I am a size 36 waist now. When I started I was 38/40.
I dont really measure body parts too much as I dont like to get caught up in the minute details. Lets face it, I am not training for the Olympia anytime soon.
I still havent started Primo yet, but hope to have some soon and I will start it right away once I have it.
More to come soon...

Week 6:
Most productive week yet. Strength gains are up in the gym.
Workout intensity is getting much more intense and recovery time is near zero.
I have lost 26lbs so far and continue to burn fat and add muscle weekly. These gains are great and I am being cautious about doing things right to keep them.
No water retention now and no real sides to speak of, except sensitive nipples. Not gyno for sure, but I am keeping an eye on it as I dont want gyno.
I am hoping to take some pics to post soon as I am very happy with the results of this cycle so far.
I would highly reccomend this cycle to anyone who wants quality lean mass quickly.
More to come soon...

Started Primo yesterday. (Sunday)
Will post how it goes as soon as effects kick in.

I'm looking forward to seeing what you think of the Primo bro, as you know it's my personal fave!