dude tht guy isnt using !!!!! an like u said cc if he is its bunk... lmao he looks strange as far as his lats.... and if he is using quality gear.. he dame sure isnt eating... ive seen guys like this tht do all these ungodly amounts of gear and never properly eat right for there body type therefore thy never grow.. and hes probably using hard drugs on top of the gear.. thts why he isnt growing... some peoples children... lmao