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Nilbog 02-21-2014 01:20 AM

Low dose of Test year around?
 
Is it possible to be on a low dose of Test year around without need HRT later on in life? I feel like crap when I am not on Test. Chronic back pain, migraine headaches and I'm flat out lethargic, but when I am on cycle I feel like a rockstar.

biggin 02-21-2014 02:17 AM

In a nutshell, no. I'm on 200 mg. a week of test for life and if I come off my test levels immediately go downhill fast. You could possibly get them back to normal with HCG, blood monitoring etc but for all intents and purposes, if you stay on it for years then it's a life long commitment.

andyebs 02-21-2014 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Nilbog (Post 33753)
Is it possible to be on a low dose of Test year around without need HRT later on in life? I feel like crap when I am not on Test. Chronic back pain, migraine headaches and I'm flat out lethargic, but when I am on cycle I feel like a rockstar.

i would say its possible to go on for a year and come off do power pct for while and could return to normal
but i would think the longer your on the harder it would be
what sort of pct do you use when come off

biggin 02-21-2014 02:02 PM

I was walking out the door last night to go for dinner (chest day and I was starving) so let me kind of expand on the what's and why's.

It sounds like you may already have low test levels. Now, without knowing how you cycle, age, base test levels etc there's honestly no way to answer this question. Let's just say you are 18, did low test for a year, then yes, you could probably easily get back to a 'normal' level since your body would already be putting out a decent amount anyway. If you were 40, had borderline low test, then did it? Then maybe yes, maybe no.

I had the same feeling a few years ago. I hadn't done any AAS in maybe 2-3 years. I was getting really lazy, had stopped working out, drinking more, eating like garbage. I finally went in to the doc and got my test level checked and it was in the 50's ng/dl. The baseline was 290-870. Now, was it genetic? From former AAS use? Because I got kicked in the balls in 4th grade? Or was it because I was living a lifestyle that was completely suppressing my test?

Whatever the reason, I now take test cyp every week and if I come off I go right back to the couch. My body just can't take hard workouts without being able to repair itself anymore. What you need to do is next time you come off cycle, do a decent PCT, give yourself a good 2 months then go get your test levels checked. I highly suggest going to a General Practitioner as they are much better versed these days on low test levels and are much cheaper than wellness clinics that don't take insurance. For instance I get mine checked every 6 months and costs me $25 for the office visit, $0 for the labs. A friend went to a wellness clinic and they charged him roughly $3000, did all kinds of weird saliva tests, and he wound up getting prescribed Androgel.

If you are feeling lethargic when off for a while the best thing is to go to the doc, see what's going on and take it from there. Without having much experience in this you really can't gauge how or why your body is doing what it's doing.

Nilbog 02-21-2014 04:59 PM

That story about your friend paying $3000 for androgel made me laugh pretty hard. I get regular good test done. I get them for free at the VA but those don't show my Test levels so I also order some private ones for myself. My base seems to be 432 (348-1197) which is still in the box but at the lower end. I am 33 and my last cycle was a Test P only cycle. PCT was Nova/Clom/HCG. I had a blood test done 5 weeks after coming off that cycle and it showed that I was anemic so I for the last month I have added Iron and B12 vitamins into my supplement regime to bring my level back up.

biggin 02-21-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nilbog (Post 33758)
That story about your friend paying $3000 for androgel made me laugh pretty hard. I get regular good test done. I get them for free at the VA but those don't show my Test levels so I also order some private ones for myself. My base seems to be 432 (348-1197) which is still in the box but at the lower end. I am 33 and my last cycle was a Test P only cycle. PCT was Nova/Clom/HCG. I had a blood test done 5 weeks after coming off that cycle and it showed that I was anemic so I for the last month I have added Iron and B12 vitamins into my supplement regime to bring my level back up.

Ya, it was pretty weird, never even heard of a saliva test. We went and shot a round of golf and about halfway through I saw him stick some kind of strip in his mouth. I asked him what he was doing and I guess the doctor had him using these things like 3 times a day for a week to monitor his GH, test levels etc and I've never even heard of that. I don't know everything about everything but it was weird. I live in a higher end part of town so we do have places around here that will prescribe GH, test and what not but you need to be in a high end job with $20k+ a year to drop on it.


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