ahh okay that sounds easier then what i was reading. So pretty much this stuff just makes it easier to keep your gains? Because last cycle i went from 160 to 195lbs.. then after cycle dropped down to 183lbs. So i gained still a lot and kept a lot but if i could hit 200 and keep it

Yes pct is important, even I will being doing pct so I can keep my gains too

Hcg is not for pct. Hcg must be used during the cycle to keep the boys hanging,keep the testicles from shutting down completely. For pct we use clomid and Nolva.

Yeah i used nolva for post cycle