That's it mate, I just want to get the dose down to the lowest I can get away with until I up it again for another cycle. At my age I need all the help I can get.
At the moment, I don't really feel any different to when I was on 500mg EW. It's been about 3 weeks since my last 500 week, so any downturn should start to show soon, I would presume.

Anyway, day late posting this but this was my back workout on 22nd September . . .

Barbell Rows
4 sets x 8 reps (done as a slight pyramid)

Kroc Rows
4 sets x 15 (warmup, 25, 25 and 20 reps

Seated Rows with V handled bar
4 sets x 8 reps

Another fairly short workout, but this was done with a slower rep speed, permanent tension and super strict form.

I'm off to pin my half weekly 100mg of test now. I know it's not a true measure of my test levels but I'm still a bit of a sex pest. Much more than I ever was pre Test E. I feel like a bloody teenager! It's mental!:D

ps starting to worry a bit coz my second package hasn't turned up yet. It's the biggy unfortunately. I'm still at least a week off the expected delivery date, so trying hard to stay cool.

It will come

1oomg may still double if not tripple of your natral test so will still be feeling like teenager
sure package will come do you have enough to tie you over for the time being

Thanks for the reassurance. TBH I didn't need it as I have total faith that it would come and guess what, it did. The day after that last post.

Cheers andyebs for the input (and Cena2013 and Crew38). It's a case of slowly tapering down really. I don't want to get too low obviously, so it's definitely play it by ear. I'll keep posting my feelings and thoughts etc and I'll always train, so it'll be interesting to see what happens.

A big thumbs up to HugeTom and Gbnstore, yet again.

At last a photo update! This is simply to show the results of my 12 week test E at 475mg cycle.

If you haven't read any of this log yet then I should point out that my aim was to lose fat while retaining and/or hopefully gaining some lean mass. It definitely wasn't an all out bulking cycle.

As far as I am concerned I achieved all I set out to achieve, though never completely, of course.


This is the last photo I took before I started the cycle . . .

https://www.hypermuscles.com/attachm...1&d=1380269769


This was taken in July, about mid way through the cycle . . .

https://www.hypermuscles.com/attachm...1&d=1380269769


and this was taken a few days ago (end of September) . . .

https://www.hypermuscles.com/attachm...1&d=1380270238

The quality of the photos isn't great, but hopefully shows the progress. There definitely was progress. I've lost 3 inches off my waist, without any muscle loss. Usually when I lose fat I also lose loads of muscle, so usually decided I'd rather keep the muscle and, unfortunately, the fat.

To be honest, looking at the photos, they don't really show the true picture. Trust me, the cycle definitely worked. I didn't go mad with the doseage, though at 475mg EW I did end up using more than I originally planned.

As far as stats are concerned, I gained about half an inch on my arms, which with some fat loss probably translates to 1 or 1.5 inches. My waist shrunk by loads and I lost about an inch off my chest, but as with the arms that was fat loss and a bit of muscle gain. Also, since starting the cycle any back pain I still had from 3 slipped discs over the last decade has completely disappeared, as has my joint pain in my hips. This means I have been able to start running again and even more important I've been able to add weight to my barbell rows, seated rows, kroc rows etc and that is starting to show results.

This isn't the end. I'll never stop training anyway, but with luck (no injuries etc) I'll be able to maintain this fat loss and start to add some quality muscle. At my age, any gains are a bonus.

Thanks for reading. I know it's not Mr Olympia/Superman stuff, but I hope it isn't too boring.

done well arms defo look lot bigger
and as long as getting the results your after thats all tht matters
whats plans for next cycle lean bulk or fat loss

Hi mate, thanks for that. Not really sure about next cycle. I think I'll see what happens over the next few months and then decide. I'm not really into getting too big as such, so maybe carrying on leaning out and keep what I've got. I have to be a bit more aware of injuries at my stage, so not really into pushing it too much.

I just like weight training. Always have done. I do it for the fitness as much as the strength and size . . .

But, having said that, who knows! Getting bigger does get a bit addictive!:D

yeah since i started bigger and stronger has been main goal
not really looking for fat loss
some people say should cut then can see what working with
but at moment
just bigeer bigger bigger for me
something like mr ckrown

Late again posting. Did legs yesterday. Basically, the same as the last leg workout . . .

Legs

Calf Raises (on a leverage gym)
3 sets x 30 reps


Barbell Squats
4 sets x 10, 8, 6 and 2 reps

Leg extensions
4 sets of 8 reps

Hamstring Curls
4 sets x 8 reps

Biceps

Hammer Curls
3 sets x 8 reps

Dumbbell Curls
3 sets x 8 reps

More or less the same weight as last time, except for the biceps. Added some weight and used less sets. See what happens!

29th September 2013

Back

A slightly different back workout with the addition of deadlifts.

Barbell Rows

2 warm up sets of 8 reps, then 5 working sets of 8 reps, going heavier with each set

Deadlifts

2 sets x 8 reps, then 2 sets x 4 reps.

Dumbbell Rows

3 sets x 10 reps

That was it. Still pinning 200mg per week and still no apparent loss of strength. If I'm honest, I not sure that I have the same staying power to put in a mega workout that I had a few weeks ago, but then again I'm lifting slow and heavy for strength and size rather than for endurance/fat loss. I'll have a better idea of the effect of lowering the test dose in a few weeks I suppose.