Maybe someone can correct me if I'm reading this wrong, but I'm a fairly intelligent person. I don't think I missing something here.

If normal is 500-700, then 1500 doesn't seem all that high. A 19 year old male can have around 1000 without AAS.

So a study I read used these numbers for a baselined 7 days after the single injection. So tested after one pin. This means this was the lowest numbers they should expect a week after they pin. (Granted other factors at play, but I'm not sure it should vary too far.)

I posted a link to the study below at the bottom.

25mg of test a week- T level was 253ng/dl
50mg of test a week- T level was 306ng/dl
125mg of test a week- T level was 542ng/dl
300mg of test a week- T level was 1,345ng/dl
600mg of test a week- lT level was 2,370 ng/dl

Now from my research, see how 600mg a week brought the test subject up to almost 1000 more than what the doctor claimed you had.

However, I asked a Dr. on another forum what the general rule is, and he said general rule of thumb is this: 200 mg - 700 mg per week, should give you about a factor of ten.

So, the high range for a 500 mg per week is 5000 ng/dl.

That's higher than the above study showed. So whatever. But everything I can find tells me your test levels should go really higher. I'm getting my blood work done, so I'll soon know what mine is and I'll post them.

Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men | Endocrinology and Metabolism

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We are all considered to be, the end user. So as an end user it pretty obvious I'm simply telling the truth with my blood work post here and the numbers the doctors told me. That being said, your inplication is that the juice and or the pills are weak and not up to par. This is the only way one would intreperate your information replies. I'll contact my doctor office to ask him about my Test numbers again but I'm almost certain he said it was in the high 1500 range.

could you ask for exact level

is it possible the chart he used was only upto 1500 and all can say was above that level

What exactly should I say so there is no confusion .

Bit awkward. It's like saying to the doc "I've been using loads of steroids and i just want to know they're GTG! Can you double check for me?"

Out of all the variables I'm clear ly focusing on matters of juice! He will know I'm doing juice once I start probing specifically on my Testosterone count number. So what exactly should I say to make it seem natural to ask about the Test level score.

Hmm, that's a good question. Other than coming clean, I'm not sure you can. You can say, hey I'm thinking about that 1500 test result, is that as high as the test goes, or could it be higher.

Then say something like, my friend gave me something he said was natural, but I'm worried it isn't.

But if I were him, I'd see right through it.

Also, if your from the states, you can go to private lab and leave your doc out of it.

This one is big with gear user here in U.S.

http://www.privatemdlabs.com

I suspect that's the case. Because he'd know if he wasn't getting a decent outcome from his gear.

Lol! This comment made my day

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