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UBAD2 12-26-2015 08:56 PM

Thus far ...
 
I been conservative with dosing, since I started getting my gear from GBN. now I'm considering Amping it up but I want to still be on the safe side. Thanks!

new-Jedi 12-26-2015 09:06 PM

I'm going off the viewpoint that the tren is going to augment my test-e.

I think some use other compounds for their non-aromatizing attribute. So using so much test increases the chance of estrogen related sides. So adding a non-aromatizing compound limits this. However, I think tren must be moving in the opposite direction.

stillgoingstron 12-26-2015 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by new-Jedi (Post 43701)
I'm going off the viewpoint that the tren is going to augment my test-e.

I think some use other compounds for their non-aromatizing attribute. So using so much test increases the chance of estrogen related sides. So adding a non-aromatizing compound limits this. However, I think tren must be moving in the opposite direction.


Tren is different to test. If you keep estrogen under control, watch out for prolactin sides and keep your first cycle short and conservative you shouldn't really have any problems.

The point of using less test for those who want to be safer is that it will lessen the chances of estrogen and subsequent prolactin sides. Obviously advanced users who use higher doses of tren and test will take whatever meds they need to keep these sides under control.

My point about long term tren use is that long term studies on humans are pretty much non existent whereas test has been thoroughly studied.

new-Jedi 12-27-2015 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by stillgoingstron (Post 43702)

Tren is different to test. If you keep estrogen under control, watch out for prolactin sides and keep your first cycle short and conservative you shouldn't really have any problems.

The point of using less test for those who want to be safer is that it will lessen the chances of estrogen and subsequent prolactin sides. Obviously advanced users who use higher doses of tren and test will take whatever meds they need to keep these sides under control.

My point about long term tren use is that long term studies on humans are pretty much non existent whereas test has been thoroughly studied.

Stillgoingstrong has never led me astray, no reason to start doubting him now. :)

So What about doing a normal 8-12 weeks of test, but only adding Tren for part of the cycle?

UBAD2 12-27-2015 12:33 AM

I'm considering doing both ...
 
But I'll closely observe and monitor myself. If necessary, I'll taper off in one or both depending on the circumstance.
I'll have to feel out my own body and how well it accepts the compounds, as I proceed forward .

stillgoingstron 12-27-2015 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by new-Jedi (Post 43703)
Stillgoingstrong has never led me astray, no reason to start doubting him now. :)

So What about doing a normal 8-12 weeks of test, but only adding Tren for part of the cycle?


That's what I do, though for slightly longer cycle. Ideally you would run test prop with the tren as it would be quicker to adjust the test dose. I run test e and lower the test dose 2 weeks before the tren.
You need to see how these compounds work for you, so take careful note of what happens for future cycles.
Which is a good reason for being conservative when you first start a new compound.

new-Jedi 12-27-2015 11:21 PM

That's the plan I'm going with.


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