Cycle Review
 

Wk1-4 - Dbol @ 50mg/day
Wk1-16 - Test @ 500mg/wk
Wk1-16 - Mast @ 400mg/wk
Wk1-15 - EQ @ 600mg/wk
Wk9-12 - TrenE @ 150mg/wk
Wk13-15 - Var @ 50mg/day


What do you all think of this cycle, first time trying tren so im gonna stick with very low doses of enanthate to see my reaction to it.... This would be my fifth cycle (Have tried test, eq, mast, dbol, var, up to this point) Please help so I can order before January 20th for 30% off discountt!!!

looks good but id double the tren e at lest will get much better results.
run the dbol for 6 weeks at the same dose if ur able to in terms of been able to eat as it can kill hunger the longer you run it the better I know strongmen who run it 8-10 weeks (get check ups all the time liver is fine).
and if you can run the Var 2 weeks longer if not more to see some real results the rest of it looks fine doe :) as long as diet is in check lots of gains will be had mate

Actually it's good to start low on tren. I think 1 out of 10 people have an allergic reaction to it and the last thing you want is something lasting for 2 weeks in your system that your body is having a bad reaction to. Had a buddy wind up in the hospital for 3 days (he wouldn't tell the doctors what he did) off some tren.

Looks solid though. And if you do tolerate tren you'll fall in love with it.

Looks pretty good. Dbol is quite high.. 30mg/day is enough if your source is legit.

I'm actually running a pretty similar cycle right now:
test 200mg/week
tren 200mg/week (will up the dose soon)
EQ 600mg/week (will stop it 2 weeks before stopping mast)
mast 170mg/week (will up the dose soon and stop it 2 weeks before stopping test))
dbol 30mg/day for 4 weeks

Recomp effects are great and I'm gaining strength like crazy.

you guys are wonderful, thanks for the input. I think ill stay low on the tren dose just to acclimate myself and see how i respond.

Whats a good PCT here? Clomid and Nolva per the usual? I'm really bad at gauging how small/big of a cycle this is.



go hard or go home, those are pretty low doses across the board... my doses are doubled for everything except the tren and EQ.... is there a reason why you go so low on test and mast?

why do they say the sky is high, when i see footprints on the moon?

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I can't answer for him but I can give a general answer. You always, ALWAYS, want to use as little as possible if it gives you an effective dose. As time goes by the gear will increase in dosage for most people. They get in the 'if 200 is good, 400 is better' mindset. However, after a few years, this turns into a 1000 mg. base test not including everything else on top of it. Then what happens is you start having a serious fight with side effects that becomes exponentially harder.

Let's just say you drink alcohol. If you drink 4 beers and feel good, eventually you think if you drink 6 you'll feel even better. Unfortunately when you drink 6 beers it makes you sick to your stomach so you take some Tums before you drink. Eventually 6 beers feel like 4, so now you drink 10. Now, instead of just feeling sick you get really sleepy also. You then come up with a plan that when you drink 10 beers you'll take some Tums and high doses of caffeine to stay awake. You get stuck on a hamster wheel where the side effects start outweighing any of the good that the original 4 beers offered.

Everyone's body is different but honestly if you start having to fight serious side effects on a cycle then you are taking too much. Some sides will obviously occur, but you should always stay on the lowest amount of gear possible for the longest amount of time and only consider raising the bar when those gains become marginalized. Now, your body may tolerate the amount of gear you are taking, but for someone else it may be way overkill. I know many people who would look at a cycle like yours and think it is such a low dose then why even bother. We all have different tolerances for different drugs and no cycle needs to be copy and pasted and then think you will have the same results as someone else.

Thanks biggin' that was a great response, and I understand to start low and always use what you need. I have always used 500mg/wk of test as I figured anything less wouldn't be effective for me. I've had good experience with it, and never had any negative side effects other then increased confidence, libido, and strength. I wouldn't go higher then 500 since I don't like to pin more than twice a week, and pushing 3ml per pin is enough in one site for me.

But thanks for the explanation, much appreciated.

Ordered!!! Payment sent today 2/11/14. ... I have the rest of the cycle stuff already, now the wait. I'll keep all prospective customers posted how awesome GBN is... hence why I posted the date :)
Shipped!!! Payment 2/12/14 and shipped same day!! 2/12/14.... This is service guys... I'll let you know how long it takes to get to the US (Northeast)


Arrived!! 2/28/14 :D :D


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Wk1-4 - Dbol @ 50mg/day
Wk1-16 - Test @ 500mg/wk
Wk1-16 - Mast @ 400mg/wk
Wk1-15 - EQ @ 600mg/wk
Wk8-12 - TrenE @ 150mg/wk
Wk13-16 - Var @ 50mg/day

All Kalpa products... first all Kalpa Cycle... what do you guys think? Is the Kalpa Dbol that strong? Is this cycle too ridiculous?


History:
First cycle: Dbol/Test/EQ (25 years old)
Second cycle: Test/EQ/Var (26 years old)
Third cycle: Test/EQ/Mast/Var (27 years old)
Fourth cycle: Dbol/Test/Mast/EQ/Tren/Var (Cycle Listed above!!) (28 years old)

I'm 28, 5'11'', 192lbs

I personally liked to keep test low with tren. Max 200mg/week. More test with tren = more sides, at least for me.

Dbol at 50mg/day sounds pretty high - I think 30mg should be enough for most people if it is legit dbol.

I'd consider to not use EQ at all and just run Tren higher (and 5 weeks of Tren E is way too short - enanthate ester takes some time to kick in!)... But that's just my personal preference. I'm not impressed with EQ.

I know kalpa test and oral dbol is dope. But I've tried their winny and didn't really see any results.

Hmm is this common to have more sides with higher dose of test and tren run together? I'm keeping the tren pretty low (200mg/wk) just to see how I react since I've never tried it. What kind of sides do you get with higher doses of test?

Try the tren higher than the test. They fight for the same receptors. When its full then what's left over floats around turning into sides. I want the tren to get in there the most test is there to keep your body on track

So do you guys see a problem with running 500mg/wk test and 200mg/wk tren? Will there be much receptor competition? Or will there be plenty of room for the tren to make its mark? Of course trying it the first time (and using enanthate) I want to minimize the sides