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pullstrong 06-30-2015 07:15 AM

Cutting up?
 
Just out of curiosity, what are some of the compound yall are running from GBN to get in shape for the summer?

stillgoingstron 06-30-2015 09:43 AM

I'm off cycle until October but for me it would have been low dose test and double the test dose of tren ace. Maybe a small dose of clen thrown in towards the end.

Actually, thinking about it, up until a few months ago it was exactly that :D

And all Kalpa from GBN

pullstrong 06-30-2015 08:07 PM

What are you planning for October? Im planning a big bulker come October myself, hopefully I can come away with some quality muscle without packing on to much fat.

stillgoingstron 06-30-2015 08:35 PM

For the first time in many years I'm going to stop dieting and bulk up. I've loads of tren left so that and test probably. Its mainly going to be the food intake that does it.

Since first taking test two years ago I've lost about 22 lbs of blubber, around 5 inches off my waist and regained a lot of the muscle I had 20 years ago. Hopefully I'll be in a good position to lean bulk.

pullstrong 07-01-2015 01:09 AM

That sounds awesome, I have tried many times in the past to bulk with tren but I find it extremely hard to eat while using it. I have used a low test approach for the last few years and it had worked ok, this year im going to try something new and really focus on clean eating.

stillgoingstron 07-01-2015 06:59 AM

Understand what you're saying about the tren. I'm just hoping that as I'm always trying to cut that by turning that around and trying hard to eat loads instead it'll do its magic. But . . . you've made me think now and l might throw in some eq to boost my appetite.

Whatever I decide, I'm definitely bulking up :D

realmuscle 07-09-2015 01:10 AM

Cut stack 150 from kalpa is awesome. Kalpa anavar is potent. Genshi products are good to. I've use the eq and the sust good stuff!

new-Jedi 07-09-2015 04:40 PM

What makes a cut stack work so well?

stillgoingstron 07-09-2015 06:43 PM


That'll be the tren and the short esters. Next to no estrogen build up or water weight.

pullstrong 07-09-2015 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stillgoingstron (Post 40502)
Understand what you're saying about the tren. I'm just hoping that as I'm always trying to cut that by turning that around and trying hard to eat loads instead it'll do its magic. But . . . you've made me think now and l might throw in some eq to boost my appetite.

Whatever I decide, I'm definitely bulking up :D

Ive tried a similar approach a few years back and it helped me out a little bit, Im cutting weight right now and am tempted to run tren again but I just ordered some NPP instead. For some reason my body looks extremely flat while using tren but my muscle bellys look full and round on NPP no matter how carb depleted I get.

stillgoingstron 07-09-2015 09:34 PM


Have to say, I definitely 'looked' bigger on just test. But if I wanted or preferred a hardened look then tren wins that one. Strength on tren far outweighed strength on test though. As someone who, up til now, preferred strength over size I was much happier using the tren.
Now I'm 54 I've finally decided I'd like some size to go with it. Fucking mental :D

new-Jedi 07-09-2015 09:50 PM

54 and killing it, that's impressive.

tj805 07-10-2015 04:02 AM

Has anyone else run the Cutaxyl 150 by Kalpa? I am bouncing back a lot on what I want to do on the next cycle. I am at that point where I can go either way with it, I can continue tightening and toning up and lean out with some definition or take advantage of the fat I replaced with muscle and bulk out a bit. I was leaning on Sustaxyl and Dbol, but something just keeps drawing me back to the Cut Mix.

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Originally Posted by realmuscle (Post 40606)
Cut stack 150 from kalpa is awesome. Kalpa anavar is potent. Genshi products are good to. I've use the eq and the sust good stuff!


stillgoingstron 07-10-2015 07:24 AM


How many cycles have you done? Are you OK with the sides you get and how to deal with them? Cutaxyl is tren and the sides can be a problem for some. I don't sleep on tren and have to run it for a maybe 4 weeks at a time.

If I was running cutaxyl and not tren and test separately I wouldn't be able to do that. If you are good to go with the sides issue then try it and see. It's a short ester so stopping due to a bad reaction will be fairly easy.

I take a tab of caber EW to prevent prolactin sides on tren.


Apologies if you've already told us about cycles etc I'm writing this quickly before I go off to work.

tj805 07-10-2015 01:04 PM

Not a problem. I have only ran short test prop cycle. I had little to no sides. I heard Tren can have some sides though, but I figured the Cutaxyl might be better to try then just stacking test and tren because it seems to come in a little bit of a lesser dosage in this mix. I also heard tren injections got a little punch to them. Sleep issues, huh? I am hoping that is a side we don't share in common. My sleep schedule is jacked up as it is. It being a short ester is another thing that drew me towards it. That is y I went with prop instead of E. Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but most of my experience is either from talking to friends whom are gear heads or doing my own research, but what is EW and what is prolactin sides? Lactin... like gyno?

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Originally Posted by stillgoingstron (Post 40641)

How many cycles have you done? Are you OK with the sides you get and how to deal with them? Cutaxyl is tren and the sides can be a problem for some. I don't sleep on tren and have to run it for a maybe 4 weeks at a time.

If I was running cutaxyl and not tren and test separately I wouldn't be able to do that. If you are good to go with the sides issue then try it and see. It's a short ester so stopping due to a bad reaction will be fairly easy.

I take a tab of caber EW to prevent prolactin sides on tren.


Apologies if you've already told us about cycles etc I'm writing this quickly before I go off to work.


stillgoingstron 07-10-2015 01:41 PM

No problem. EW means every week, EOD is every other day or E3D is every 3 days etc etc.

Prolactin or an excess of prolactin is another way to get gyno. Although keeping estrogen low by taking a SERM such as nolva or clomid or an AI such as aromasin or arimidex can help reduce the possibility of prolactin sides you might find you need a dopamine receptor agonist such as cabergolin to reduce the amount of prolactin you produce. Always best to have some handy when running tren. You never know if you might need it.


tj805 07-10-2015 07:24 PM

Every week. Duh! I knew that. hahaha! Thanks for all the info. It has been really helpful. I have researched AIs and SERMs, but not familiar with dopamine receptor agonists. I will have to read up a bit. I think you helped make up my mind. Cutaxyl it is. Got Nolva on hand, but I might get an AI just to have on stock as well. Thanks again. :D

toon22 07-10-2015 07:38 PM

Just learned something myself, being a bit prone to gyno I will definitely look into this


Thank you!

new-Jedi 07-10-2015 09:56 PM

Although this forum doesn't have a lot of people at any given moment, I'm really learning a lot from you guys. I'll be ready, and informed, when I get a chance to run a cycle. It's exciting to know the info is there to find.

stillgoingstron 07-10-2015 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by new-Jedi (Post 40634)
54 and killing it, that's impressive.

Appreciate the comment but honestly I don't feel any different to anyone else.

The possibility of prolactin sides also applies to deca but if estrogen is kept under control should be easily controlled. It's why these ancillaries need to be on hand.

new-Jedi 07-11-2015 04:19 AM

What do you suggest. On my order, which I'm going do now if I can find a way to pay for it safely, I have just clomid. Should I use something else?

realmuscle 07-11-2015 11:08 PM

I would suggest testosterone i like the kalpa cyp I hear great things about the kalpa 350. I've also use gen Shi sus good stuff as well. And just diet no matter what you take you still have to diet to cut up. And order some arimadex to keep handy estrogen issues.

realmuscle 07-11-2015 11:12 PM

Sites legit my man. If you have any concerns message tom privately. Super nice guy. Always gets back to you in a timely manor.gbn products are also good to go its the only product ive used for almost the past 6 months. Love the quality!

new-Jedi 07-12-2015 12:05 AM

I gave it a shot. Everyone has been really cool and forthcoming. I guess it is hard to gain trust, but so far so good. Tom has been good, and he emails me back, usually takes a half of a day or maybe less, but he is very helpful.

tj805 07-12-2015 01:52 AM

Gave in and ordered the Cutaxyl 150. Thanks again for all the info. They were sold out on the armidex though, so I went with the Aromaxyl. AIs work the same, right?

new-Jedi 07-12-2015 02:15 AM

Are you trying to cut?

realmuscle 07-14-2015 12:37 AM

No not all ai work the same. Have you ever used tren before?

stillgoingstron 07-14-2015 01:29 AM


Aromaxyl is a type 1 suicidal aromatase inhibitor. It kills estrogen or a good percentage of it. Aromaxyl also boosts natural test levels by a significant amount and can be used with nolva. Arimidex and letro can both significantly reduce the effects of nolva. It has no adverse effects on lipids either.

Arimidex is a type 2 aromatase inhibitor and works slightly differently by suppressing the conversion to estrogen in the first place rather than killing it once it's been converted which leads to the possibility of rebound gyno symptoms. It's also not as effective at dealing with excess estrogen.

I suppose it really depends on how much estrogen you are producing and how much of it you want to get rid of as to which AI you prefer. I prefer aromasin because I think its better all round. I definitely don't think its a worse choice.

tj805 07-14-2015 02:50 AM

Nope, first time running Tren.

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Originally Posted by stillgoingstron (Post 40785)

Aromaxyl is a type 1 suicidal aromatase inhibitor. It kills estrogen or a good percentage of it. Aromaxyl also boosts natural test levels by a significant amount and can be used with nolva. Arimidex and letro can both significantly reduce the effects of nolva. It has no adverse effects on lipids either.

Arimidex is a type 2 aromatase inhibitor and works slightly differently by suppressing the conversion to estrogen in the first place rather than killing it once it's been converted which leads to the possibility of rebound gyno symptoms. It's also not as effective at dealing with excess estrogen.

I suppose it really depends on how much estrogen you are producing and how much of it you want to get rid of as to which AI you prefer. I prefer aromasin because I think its better all round. I definitely don't think its a worse choice.

Awesome. Thanx for the good info. Sounds like it was a better choice. I have plenty of Nolva on hand, but everybody suggested I get an AI on hand just in case. Better to have it and not need it, to need it and not have it I guess.

new-Jedi 07-14-2015 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tj805 (Post 40788)
Nope, first time running Tren.



Awesome. Thanx for the good info. Sounds like it was a better choice. I have plenty of Nolva on hand, but everybody suggested I get an AI on hand just in case. Better to have it and not need it, to need it and not have it I guess.

Yea, my plan is to purchase the three when I get my next order, for no other reason to make sure nothing goes down. I will only have clomid for my first cycle, and that slightly worries me somewhat, but I dont want to order a small order, nor do I want to get my next cycle until I know this one is not going to mess me up. So its kinda one of the risk I am going to have to take.

pullstrong 07-14-2015 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by new-Jedi (Post 40790)
Yea, my plan is to purchase the three when I get my next order, for no other reason to make sure nothing goes down. I will only have clomid for my first cycle, and that slightly worries me somewhat, but I dont want to order a small order, nor do I want to get my next cycle until I know this one is not going to mess me up. So its kinda one of the risk I am going to have to take.

Man you are bringing me back to some old memories lol. I had the exact same concern when I first started buying products off of online web sites, I started small by ordering some Dbol tabs and when they came through I decided to order my test. If you have any questions regarding cycles, nutrition, or any GBN product, feel free to PM me, Ill do my best to answer your questions in a timely manner.

stillgoingstron 07-14-2015 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tj805 (Post 40788)
Nope, first time running Tren.



Awesome. Thanx for the good info. Sounds like it was a better choice. I have plenty of Nolva on hand, but everybody suggested I get an AI on hand just in case. Better to have it and not need it, to need it and not have it I guess.

Wise words :)

new-Jedi 07-14-2015 06:36 AM

Thank you, I will do. I've been kinda shooting questions around when I think of them. Mostly because nothing beats experience. I can find info online, but somehow I get more nuance and better advice from people. There is no doubt about it. Plus, if not for people at this forum, I'd probably not gone through with ordering. I read so many horror stories on other forums, and I'm sure people have bad experiences. I just tried to find the most the one I felt most comfortable with, and this site made that work. I have little doubt that this is the only place I'll ever use, once I'm through the first run. :rolleyes:


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Originally Posted by pullstrong (Post 40793)
Man you are bringing me back to some old memories lol. I had the exact same concern when I first started buying products off of online web sites, I started small by ordering some Dbol tabs and when they came through I decided to order my test. If you have any questions regarding cycles, nutrition, or any GBN product, feel free to PM me, Ill do my best to answer your questions in a timely manner.



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