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ventana 04-05-2013 09:52 PM

Ventana 1st log
 
Hey guys.

Got my stuff today.

Arimixyl (1.000 X 30 tabs)
Clomixyl (1.000 X 30 tabs)
Nolvaxyl (1.000 X 30 tabs)
Testoxyl Propionate 100 (4.000 X 10 ml)

Gonna pin eod for 100mg test p.


Did my first shot into the right quad about 5 hours ago.
No pain till now. Let's see if there's gonna be some pain tomorrow.

Gonna train about 4 to 5 times a week, depending on how I can schedule it along with working and university.

Calories will be about 3300 to 3700. Got quite nice gain with that amount the last weeks.


Chest / Tri tomorrow.

ventana 04-06-2013 11:40 AM

http://s12.postimg.org/5xjrvawbh/20130226_140914.jpg
http://s3.postimg.org/sjzxitgsj/20130226_140928.jpg


Pictures were shot at the end of February.

ventana 04-06-2013 02:08 PM

Trained Chest and shoulders today. Felt like shit.
I think I over-strained my nerve system the last week or so - over training style.
Bad start for my cycle.

Whatever I'm gonna rest 2-3 days an look how things are going.

Todays workout:

Incline Bench
Machine flys with supinated grip for extra upper-inner chest stress.
Machine shoulder press
DB front raise superset with side lateral raise

high reps, light weight.
That's all I could do today.


Injection Pain from yesterday is ok. It hurts, but I can live with that.

http://s24.postimg.org/tm60o9u91/20130406_153128.jpg

Cornish_Celt 04-07-2013 06:37 AM

I'll be follwoing this log,
Whats your training routine like?

ventana 04-07-2013 12:18 PM

Great to have you on board Cornish.

I was gonna ask you anyway.
As you can see I lack development in the upper chest, front delt and biceps area.
I recently started to only do incline bench press and other movement that focus on these areas.
Any other areas you see that are lacking? (Despite my high body fat, but we already talked about that)

I recently trained like 4 to 5 times a week. Rest days a put in as needed.
Day 1 Chest, Delts, Tri
Day 2 Biceps and Back
Day 3 Rest
Day 4 Legs
Day 5 Rest

Maybe Day 6 Rest.

Then repeat. I mixed up the exercises quite alot and trained one week with heavy weights aiming for about 5,6 reps. The next week with lighter weights aiming for 15 to 20 reps.

I may have to train differently while on cycle. Can you give me an advice in respect to my upper chest/front delt/biceps region?

Cornish_Celt 04-07-2013 12:46 PM

I find the best routine on cycle is either German Volume Training or this:
If you would prefer to try the GVT let me know and I'll post that as well.

Eight day training cycle
One day training, One day rest


The following training program considers all the essential factors which are neccessary for a quick build up of strength and muscle mass.
In combination with the correct nutrition its effectivness can be considerably increased.
Based on the high intensity it is not suitable for natural bodybuilders over a long period of time.
This training schedule is obviously only intended as a suggestion and can be changed to meet individual needs.

Day 1:
Chest and Biceps


Bench press: 3 x 6 - 8
Incline bench press: 2 x 6 - 8
Dips(with added weight): 2 x 8 - 10
Barbell curls: 3 x 6 - 10
Dumbell curls: 2 x 6 - 10

Day 3:
Thighs


Squats: 3 x 6 - 10
Leg press: 2 x 6 - 10
Leg curls: 2 x 8 - 10

Day 5:
Shoulders and Triceps


Press behind neck: 3 x 6 - 8
Upright row: 2 x 6 - 10
Side lat raises: 2 x 8 - 10
Lying triceps press: 3 x 6 - 10
Triceps pushdowns: 2 x 8 - 10

Day 7:
Back and Claves


Chins(with added weight): 3 x 8 - 10
Lat pulldown: 2 x 8 - 10
Bent over rows: 2 x 6 - 10
Seated pulley rows: 2 x 6 - 10
Standing calf raise: 3 x 8 - 12
Seated calf raise: 2 x 8 - 12

Note: Training is only on uneven days, i.e. every 2nd, 4th, 6th and 8th day is a complete rest day.
The intervals between various sets should be 3 - 4 minutes.
Try to make sure that the exercises - as much as possible - are carried out using free weights and not machines.
Every muscles is directly trained only once every 8 days.
It is important that every set is carried out until muscle failure, meaning that you are unable to do another rep on your own.
Only in this case are the relatively few sets and long rest periods justified.
The muscle cell must be taken to a strongly catabolic condition since only then will the distinct anticatabolic effect of anabolic/androgenic steroids develop fully.
The required intensity of training, however, can only be achieved when you start (after a short warm up) with the heaviest weight possible and then decrease the weight in every following set, so as you are losing body strength you are still able to achieve the desired amount of reps.

In order to avoid any misunderstandings I will explain this principle:
An ahtlete is able to carry out a maximum of 6 reps with 300 pounds bench press.
1st warm up set: 10 reps with 140 pounds
2nd warm up set: 2 reps with 200 pounds
3rd warm up set: 2 reps with 240 pounds

1st working set: 6 reps with 300 pounds
2nd working set: 7 reps with 280 pounds
3rd working set: 7 reps with 260 pounds

The first warm up set serves to bring blood to the muscles and joints.
The second and third warm up sets are an approach to the weight of the first working set.
The interplay between the muscle and nerve is stimulated, meaning the athlete gets a feeling for the heavy weights without waisting strength and energy at the same time.
During the following exercises the warm up sets are completely omitted which means that they are only neccessary for the first exercise of the muscle to be trained.
Do not forget, however, that during every exercise or set you should try to squeeze out an additional 1 or 2 reps more than the previous session in order to increase training weights the following week.
The continuous tire-some struggle to increase reps and weight is the only way to build a massive body:
Always remember: HEAVY WEIGHTS BUILD BIG MUSCLES.

ventana 04-07-2013 12:56 PM

Thank you sincerely Cornish!

As a matter of fact, I am interested in the German Volume as you keep telling great thing about it!

Well I try to get my diet as good as possible. cooking meals in the morning, taking them with me to the university to eat every 2,5 - 3 hours. Mostly turkey breast with rice and broccoli.

On workout days I eat self made burgers with some honey an egg and some spices plus some smashed potatoes, to get some more calories in.

Cornish_Celt 04-07-2013 12:59 PM

Here's the link to the GVT that I'm doing at the moment and can't stop raving about!
https://www.hypermuscles.com/f69/ret...training-6209/
10 x 10 may be a bit of a shock to the system!

GunnyGunnderson 04-07-2013 03:52 PM

hell yeah CC i picked up GVT after following your log and i just love it. i have problems with my joints and the lighter weights seem to keep the pain away but the pump is still insane! after 3 months of it i went back to the heavier weights and smashed all of my PRs.. could also have something to do with Huge Tom and GBN lol I highly recommend giving it a shot Ven!

ventana 04-07-2013 05:42 PM

Just did my 2nd shot of 1ml test prop.

Tried left shoulder this time.
Yesterday, my right quad hurt pretty bad from my first shot on Friday - i put some diclofenac on it over night. It's better today.

Feeling hungry all day. Is this related to the test already? Probably not.

ventana 04-07-2013 09:08 PM

I have about 15ml Test E at 250mg/ml from Pharm Tec
and about 100 Winstrol tabs at 10mg from Alpha Pharma.

Do you think there is a way for me to combine some of that with my test p?
Or should I save that for another time?

ventana 04-10-2013 06:38 PM

My first "real" workout on steroids - kinda special ;-)

Well, I felt strong but my heartrate was high all the time... A little too high I guess... Maybe because of overtraining? I'm pretty sure I got myself into it last week - as I trained too much and too heavy while not beeing on rhoids.
Or it is because of my little infection I got from pinning my left delt on sunday.

I still gave everything in the gym.

Chest
Bench press: 4 x 6 - 8
Incline bench press: 2 x 6 - 8
Dips(with added weight): 3 x 8 - 10
Barbell curls: 3 x 6 - 10
Dumbell curls: 2 x 6 - 10

Almost like Cornish_Celt recommended.

Still would appreciate suggestions to my prior post in this thread.

Cornish_Celt 04-10-2013 06:46 PM

good looking workout, as far as the previous question goes you could add the test e at 500mg per week, wouldn't bother with the winstrol at this stage

ventana 04-12-2013 02:17 PM

hey guys!

just pinned right quad again as it was almost free from pain from wednesday.
mixed in the test e this time.

tigh workout was awful today, as I didn't feel good emotionally. couldn't focus and had bad thoughts all the time.
hopfully sundy will be better!

ventana 04-16-2013 05:10 PM

Quote:

All part of the game dude! Just got to turn that negative energy into aggression and tear the weights a new one. Feel better bud!
Thanks for your motivation!

I feel alot better the last days!

Killed it at the gym the last two times.

Shoulder Triceps:
3 x standing bb shoulder press behind the head
3x upright bb rows (I'm not really great with this exercise yet - what's important here?)
2 x db side laterals
2 x frenchpress
2 x cable pushdown with straight bar

Back on Sunday
3 x chins (Hell, I'm so bad with pullup exercises - too much bady fat - too less strenght?!)
2 x Pull down
2 x bent over bb row
2 x seated cable row with tight grip

2 x standing calf raise
2 x seated calf raise

Added 250mg of test e on friday. Gonna pin again for 100mg test p and 250mg test e today.

Chest and biceps are up tomorrow! Gonna kill it!

ventana 04-17-2013 05:50 PM

Had a quite good chest / bi workout today.

But somehow I was weaker than last year, as I am supposed to get stronger on test, right?
Or does the test p need more time to be noticed?
(My first shot was on the 5. of April)

Workout: weight in kg.
Bench press: 90 x 8, 90x 11, 90 x 8
Incline bench press: 70 x 8, 80 x 7
Dips(with added weight): 12.5 x 8, 12.5 x 8
Barbell curls: 40 x 8, 40 x 6, 30 x 8
Dumbell curls: 15 x 10, 17.5 x 8

Barman 04-18-2013 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ventana (Post 29513)
Had a quite good chest / bi workout today.

But somehow I was weaker than last year, as I am supposed to get stronger on test, right?
Or does the test p need more time to be noticed?
(My first shot was on the 5. of April)

Workout: weight in kg.
Bench press: 90 x 8, 90x 11, 90 x 8
Incline bench press: 70 x 8, 80 x 7
Dips(with added weight): 12.5 x 8, 12.5 x 8
Barbell curls: 40 x 8, 40 x 6, 30 x 8
Dumbell curls: 15 x 10, 17.5 x 8

Relax mate :) some people feel it sooner than others sex drive will go up + just because your taking an AAS doesnt mean all your workouts will be amazing even having a bad day can mess up your workout as you know :)

ventana 04-19-2013 10:30 AM

Thanks Barman.

Pinned left quad yesterday - went good.

Trained Quads today:

Leg Ext x 3 as hard as possible
leg curls x 2
leg press x 2

I know, not impressive, but I'm lacking motivation the last days.

I JUST CAN'T LOOK AT MYSELF ANYMORE! I HATE IT.

I've been working my ass of the last two years and never managed to lose body fat, no matter what I tried.

So, I change my goal with this cycle and try to make it a cutting cycle. I need to, because I could puke if I look myself in the mirror.

Ideas:
+ I was thinking of roughly 2500kcals a day, with added t3 for 4 weeks or longer if needed.

+ Weight training just like Cornish mentioned on page 1 in this thread.
Maybe add 15 minutes high intensity cario after some workouts.

+ Cutting out carbs after 19:00

+ leave out test e, and stick just with test p pin for 100mg eod.

+ Drinking green tea.

+ 2g l-tyrosin a day


Any suggestions? I could really use the help from all of you! I need to do this deperately, cause I'm struggling to do this for a long time and that's costed me far too much energy. It get me depressed on regular basis, cause I work very hard and do not get any desired results.

Please take part in my journey here ;-)

Barman 04-19-2013 12:20 PM

Hey mate :) id cut kcals down a bit more maybe 2200?? T3 is a great med to have do lots of reading on it to find how to run it i think 2tabs a day is plenty but if i was you id go with clen first safer and easyer on your body.

also i found doing less... cardio i lost more yes less lol im your endo guy to i do 15 mins 2-3 times a week either before or after weights on the stairs works great tbh. also try and aim for around 5lrs of water a day this will also help green tea is good to i take the caps as i hate the taste of the stuff lol take it easy train hard and tons of rest even if that means a 30min nap in the day.

ventana 04-19-2013 08:30 PM

Thanks for your support Barman.

You know this really is something like my personal mount everest. I'm chasing this goal for song long that I lost track every now and then. But I see how it really depresses me to find myself ugly because I'm too fat when I look in the mirror - especially when I really try my best not to.

;-)

About t3 and clen... well I don't have any clen at home but I have tons of t3 plus I really wanna make sure to make it work this time.

This is how I looked in August 2010. This is enough for me.
This is what I wanna achiev again - just a little bit bigger ;-)
http://s10.postimg.org/ka2p34rdl/P1000251.jpg

Barman 04-20-2013 10:48 AM

look nice and tight in that mate.
ok with T3 i think the best way to run it is do 1 tab for 2--3 days up it to another tab and do the same if you want to go up another but i think 2tabs is more than enough ybh :) also always run test with T3 like you are now. and some people say do a couple weeks on and the same off. i dont do this ive nowing guys being on for over a year and a year and a half on it and within 1-2 months T3 levels are back to normal. so its up to you how to run it i just run it till im out of tabs/ done with with it for my needs and ive like 3 days left lol its also a great thing to add to a bulk as you will use even more of the food (proteins, carbs and fats) can help make you grow a bit more in other words and slightly reduce fat gains.

Cornish_Celt 04-20-2013 06:38 PM

I agree with Barman, T3 at 2 tabs a day(build it up slowly over a few days) but do make sure you're on test aswell, I lost a hell of a lot of weight in 3 weeks on Clen and T3 but a lot of it was muscle(we live and learn!) Now I always use test with it.

ventana 04-21-2013 05:28 PM

thanks guys.
I'll keep the test running!
Should I keep the test p with 100mg eod, or should I switch to test for maybe just 250mg a week?
I'll stick with 2, maybe 3 tabs t3 for some while now.

Cornish_Celt 04-21-2013 05:33 PM

You can continue on the prop, or go on to Test E or C at 250mg per week, that's really your choice although I would go for the E or C for no reason other than it's less injections

ventana 04-24-2013 05:20 PM

I'll go for 250mg test e per week + 3 tabs t3 per day.
I keep you updated ;-)


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