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Nalle 08-10-2013 07:59 PM

Testosteron Propionat 10W cycle
 
With the great deals GBN offers I couldn't resist spending some money on my second cycle. I'm older, wiser, more experienced so I have my hopes high for this one :)

W1-W10 - Test P - 100mg/EOD (or 50/ED if I can take the constant pinning... probably not)
W1-W10 - Adex - 0.25/EOD - will adjust as I go along if needed
PCT - Nolva - 20/20/20/20 - avoiding clomid like a plague after my first cycle

and that's it really.. nothing fancy. But I like the simplicity.

Diet: this is were I've made the most progress. I'm currently month in loosing weight using Lean Gains approach and loving it. I still have a few books to read but even without them my knowledge of nutrition has increased greatly. I'm nowhere near where I would want to be but at least my only answer to gaining weight isn't milk anymore :D

Training: I've also changed my training goals and I am currently focusing on the long term progress and expanding my horizons with new types of training.

As of now the only approach I know, understand and have experience with is powerlifting-style training.
I would like to use this cycle as an opportunity to immerse myself into bodybuilding style of training and fully dedicate myself to it for the 10 weeks of my cycle.

Because I lack any experience with whatsoever I would like to ask you - much more knowledgeable and experienced guys for some tips and advice.
Of course I don't expect anybody to do my homework for me, so here is what I have so far based on a 4-day split from GBN website:

Day 1 - Legs
1. Squat 3x5 (linear progression)
2. ??
3. ??
4. ??
....


Day 2 - Arms

Huge Tom's Blow Up Arms Workout. Rest time is 40 seconds.

BICEPS
1. Standing Dumbbell Alternate Biceps Curl 3x15
2. Hammer Curls 3x15
3. Barbell Preacher Curl 3x20
4. Reverse Barbell Curl 3x15

TRICEPS
1. Barbell Close Grip Bench Press 3x20;15;10;12
2. Cable Bent-over Triceps Extension 3x15
3. Dumbbell One Arm Triceps Extension 3x12
4. Weighted Triceps Dip 3xMaximum amount of reps you can do

Day 3
OFF

Day 4 - Chest with frontal and lateral deltoids
1. Bench 3x5 (linear progression)
2. ??
3. ??
4. ??
....


Day 5 - Back with rear deltoids
1. Press 3x5 (linear progression)
2. Where should I put deadlift?
3. ??
4. ??
....


Abs are trained each day in 2 exercises in 4 sets.

James42 08-11-2013 12:23 PM

I love the lean gains approach. Only way I eat now.
If your used to powerlifting routines but want some focus on size also. You might want to try the 5 day power muscle burn routine. Its in the workout forum.
I've been doing it for a couple months now and I've seen the best gains in both size and strength ever.

Nalle 08-11-2013 09:19 PM

5 day routine looks great. I love the philosophy behind it.
I've made slight changes to make it "4 day routine" to fit my schedule:

DAY 1 - Quads, Traps and Calves
Quads
Squat - Power 2-4 x 3 to 5
Leg Press - Muscle 2-3 x 6 to 12
Front Squat - Muscle 2-3 x 6 to 12
Leg Press - Burn 1 x 40
Traps
Power Barbell Shrugs - Power 2 x 3 to 5
Dumbbell Shrugs - Muscle 2 x 6 to 12
Power Barbell Shrugs - Burn 1 x 40
Calves
Standing/Seated Calf Raise - Muscle 2 x 10 to 15

45 Degree Calf Raise - Burn 2 x 40

DAY 2 - Chest and Triceps
Chest
Bench Press - Power 2-4 x 3 to 5
Incline Bench Press - Muscle 2-3 x 6 to 12
Dumbbell Bench Press - Muscle 2-3 x 6 to 12
Dumbbell Flys - Burn 1 x 40
Triceps
Closegrip Bench Press - Power 2 x 3 to 5
Seated French Press - Muscle 2 x 6 to 12
Cable Tricep Extension - Burn 1 x40

DAY 3 - Off

DAY 4 - Deadlift and Back
Deadlift
Deadlift - Power 2-4 x 3 to 5
Romanian Deadlift - Muscle 3-4 x 6 to 12
Leg Curl - Muscle 3-4 x 6 to 12
Leg Curl - Burn 1 x 40
Back
Barbell Rows - Power 2-4 x 3 to 5
Dumbbell Rows - Muscle 2-3 x 6 to 12
Pulldowns/Chin ups - Muscle 2-3 x 6 to 12
Seated Cable Row - Burn 1 x 40

DAY 5 - Shoulders and Biceps
Shoulders
Barbell Press - Power 2-4 x 3 to 5
Seated Arnold Press - Muscle 2-3 x 6 to 12
Barbell Front Raise - Muscle 2 x 6 to 12
Dumbbell Lateral Raise - Burn 1 x 40
Biceps
Pinwheel Curls - Power 2 x 3 to 5
Standing Barbell Curl - Muscle 2-3 x 6 to 12
Cable Preacher Curl - Burn 1-2 x 40

Abs are trained each day in 1 exercise (ab-wheel) in 3 sets. << let's not get too crazy in here.

The orange indicates exercises that I may drop I the whole workout takes too much time. Red is for stuff I probably won't do.

James42 08-11-2013 09:42 PM

Looks good. Your gonna be a sore puppy

Nalle 09-28-2013 08:54 AM

I did my first pin yesterday. Couldn't find a longer needle anywhere in my town so I had to pin to my shoulder. It was actually more comfortable then using quad.
Some PIP today but nothing nowhere near as bad as my first pin of Test E. I take it back. This stuff hurts!

Monday is gonna be the first day of my new workout routine so I'm looking forward to it.

This is how it looks on paper:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...0p%20cycle.pdf

The whole cycle is going to be 11W long.

I know that 350mg/W of Test P is a little bit on the lower side but I'll stick to it because on this dosage I can cover the whole winter semester.

My diet consists of:
500g of chicken meat
2l of milk
+200g of cheap carbs on workout days (mainly from those dry rice crackers)
+eggs/school lunch/peanut butter sandwich/tuna - whatever else to get me to around 3500kcals and 250g of protein in total.

It's pretty rough but I have very limited budget this semester and I have to prepare all my food in the morning and take it with me.

My goals are to meet and ideally exceed my dbol maxes and do a slight body re-composition in the process. We'll see how it goes.

Nalle 09-29-2013 06:32 PM

Second pin today to my left quad with 22G 1.5" needle.

The shoulder from my first pin still hurts pretty bad. It is hot to the touch, has pinkish color around the injection area and I have flu like symptoms. It it also slightly hard to the touch so given the fact that it was a virgin muscle and I've used small 3/4" needle I think that the oil is still in there.
I hope that it's just a bad reaction to the stuff. I did a lot of research about it and it utterly sucks that it is completely indistinguishable from infection. A tons of people experienced the exact same thing I'm going through and some of them even gave up Test Prop completely because of it.
I'll just have to wait and monitor if it gets any better or not. I would hate to go on antibiotics.

Crew38 09-29-2013 06:34 PM

I hate the legs. I can pin the flutes and shoulders but fuck that leg shit.

Nalle 09-30-2013 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crew38 (Post 31769)
I hate the legs. I can pin the flutes and shoulders but fuck that leg shit.

Honestly I barely know about it. So I'll probably stick to legs.

The shoulder on the other hate is giving me a trouble. It still seems like an infection so I'm probably going to have to get antibiotics.

Crew38 09-30-2013 11:39 AM

Haha glutes not flutes. Stupid auto correct

Nalle 10-01-2013 03:30 PM

So I'm on antibiotics for the rest of this week. Not wiping the rubber stopper was a stupid mistake. And it's not like I forgot or something. I just said to myself "nah, fuck it. it's brand new what can happen" ... 5 seconds could have saved me a lot of trouble.

Anyway... the leg also hurts like a motherfucker.

Test Prop is not for pussies that's for sure.


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