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BozBoz 10-01-2013 10:21 AM

1st cycle Test e/Dbol
 
This is my first cycle log so pardon me if I get things a little wrong. I started this cycle with dbol only until my gbn packages started arriving and so am now on both test e and dbol. Have been training on/off for 8years but solid for last 3. Good diet and lucky me got a constant supply of good food at work! Looking to bulk with what I researched to be a classic combo. My first cycle was anavar for a few weeks with little gains from that.

So far on this cycle:
10mg/day dbol week 1
20mg/day dbol weeks 2 & 3
30mg/day dbol + 500mg test e(mon/thur) week 4

Have had my third shot of test e yesterday back to my right quad again and that's all fine, not too sore.
My second injection last week on Thursday was not so good. Went in okay and injected slowly, however when withdrawing needle got blood straight away. So was sore that day but could walk/squat normal so on Friday did my legs. Big mistake I think. Since Friday my knee and left side of quad near my knee has swollen, now the outside of my calf. Cannot walk without limping, have tried to rest it but have been at work since it happened so not much chance. I followed all the sterile procedures for self injecting (as far as I'm aware). No fever, no lump under injection site just really swollen. Any ideas? :confused:
Was thinking I might have a knee injury but I wasn't squatting that low at the time 'just in case' I aggravated the injection site and the knee itself is not painful to touch, just sensitive around the swollen areas.
My next shot is on Thursday so not sure if it would be best to go back to my right quad again or try my delt?
Any ideas/suggestions would be great thanks :)

Nalle 10-01-2013 03:33 PM

I was limping for the first too weeks I was on Test E. Virgin muscles tend to do that.

I would not worry about it unless you have symptoms of infection.

Crew38 10-01-2013 04:41 PM

Do your research and be careful not to come near your nerve.

BozBoz 10-01-2013 11:07 PM

Yeah no sign of infection, have had alot of rest time today and it seems to be responding well! Will give legs the rest of the week off and see how I am next week.
@crew38: What nerve is that? I've been avoiding glute injections because I heard you can hit a nerve there which is literally a giant pain in the arse!:D

Eurovisionas 10-01-2013 11:22 PM

Injections on the quads are much easier, you should try it. If you don't know how to shoot there properly I suggest you watch this video How To Inject Testosterone - YouTube it's the one I saw before I started, I do it as he shows it and never had any problems, good luck mate.

Crew38 10-02-2013 01:11 AM

Sciatic nerve runs through the ass cheek down the quad ,calf to the foot. Cut the ass cheek into quarters and find center point. Then travel to the upper outer quadrant and boom no pain.
I had a doc give me one in the leg and still fucked me up. I just can't do the leg. My ass gets sore from all the sustanon but nothing like the leg

Big_Poppa_pump 10-02-2013 05:45 AM

This is probably the best site for injection procedure: http://www.spotinjections.com/
I don't like splitting injections unless they are different compounds, I have always had better gains by injecting all the test in one shot per week, there is research on this but people still believe that splitting a test injection in to 2 shots per week is the best way, I and many others do not agree.

BozBoz 10-03-2013 10:10 PM

Thanks for the info guys. Second shot week 2. Both shots this week have been in my right quad, no pain. My pins from gbn arrived and am now using these instead of the needle exchange ones. 24g versus 23g so slightly smaller, not tried other injectables yet but this kalpa gear really goes in smooth compared to what I've read about other gear.

@big_poppa_pump: Would injecting 1x 500mg/2ml of test e not hurt alot more then splitting into two shots?

Cena2013 10-08-2013 09:41 PM

Kalpa is really smooth. I love Kalpa, Sciroxx, Genshi, the stuff goes in very nice, no burn. I always get the sore leg muscles. One time the muscle was sore it actually went not to the top of my knee. Other then that i have never had problem,i love injecting legs and shoulders. I have a hard time reach my glutes, and dont have anyone to help me with that.

Cornish_Celt 10-09-2013 06:44 AM

I don't think there is much difference in pain when injecting 250 or 500mg in one go(I do 4ml on a regular basis and any pip is pretty much the same). I have also found that gains are better when you don't split the shots, its to do with the build up of test and maintaining the higher dosage which will not happen with split doses

BozBoz 10-09-2013 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornish_Celt (Post 31930)
I don't think there is much difference in pain when injecting 250 or 500mg in one go(I do 4ml on a regular basis and any pip is pretty much the same). I have also found that gains are better when you don't split the shots, its to do with the build up of test and maintaining the higher dosage which will not happen with split doses

So maybe after tomorrows shot (number 6(total) week 3) should I start next week maybe with every Tuesday 500mg in 1 shot per week for the next 9 weeks?

Heres a BIG question regarding early signs of gyno. Currently have slightly tender nipples when I run my hand over them, noticed it today when in the shower, No background pain tho and cant feel any lump or burning. Not puffy as far as can tell but they are pretty small anyway!
The gyno protection I have is Kalpa nolvaxyl and aromaxyl-should I even consider using one/both of these yet? (on week 3 atm). Also got clomid for PCT.

Cornish_Celt 10-10-2013 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BozBoz (Post 31964)
So maybe after tomorrows shot (number 6(total) week 3) should I start next week maybe with every Tuesday 500mg in 1 shot per week for the next 9 weeks?

Heres a BIG question regarding early signs of gyno. Currently have slightly tender nipples when I run my hand over them, noticed it today when in the shower, No background pain tho and cant feel any lump or burning. Not puffy as far as can tell but they are pretty small anyway!
The gyno protection I have is Kalpa nolvaxyl and aromaxyl-should I even consider using one/both of these yet? (on week 3 atm). Also got clomid for PCT.

To the first question, yes that would be fine.

If you suspect you are getting some gyno signs then start taking the Nolva at 20mg per day, if it's just sensitivety then the Nolva should sort it

andyebs 10-10-2013 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eurovisionas (Post 31807)
Injections on the quads are much easier, you should try it. If you don't know how to shoot there properly I suggest you watch this video How To Inject Testosterone - YouTube it's the one I saw before I started, I do it as he shows it and never had any problems, good luck mate.

this is vid i watched before i started
very informative even though person looks like a kid
but i think its a girl trying to be a boy

stillgoingstron 10-10-2013 09:03 AM

I'm not saying ignore the tender/sore nips, but I would say don't panic. On my first cycle I had the occasional itchy/sore nip and one 1/2 tab of Arimidex got rid of it. I stayed at the same dose of test (475mg/week) and nothing worse developed.

Try the nolva or adex and see what happens. Unless you particularly want to run nolva alongside your test, for whatever reason, then you might find just one or two might do the job and you can save your nolva for your pct.

BozBoz 11-15-2013 01:12 PM

Well I'm on week 8 now, have been double dropping my test e every tuesday so 2ml 250mg/ml in one hit. Gains are good, still on the dbol @30mg per day got plenty of size. Will probably finish off the 3rd vial so maybe push to 14weeks instead of 12 and then start the cut.

My mind was abit all over the place a few weeks ago weeks 5-7, ended up splitting with my gf and moving out from where we were living together. Not really a problem as have more time to train now and word spreads like fire when you are single so plenty of attention(which really aint a bad thing now is it!;)).

Sex drive was massively high for the first few weeks but thats leveld out now, still enjoying the test and gotta say the Kalpa gear goes in so smooth I have no pain now post injection and the actual process is second nature!

BozBoz 11-15-2013 01:15 PM

oh and as for gyno, I was taking one tablet (20mg?) of nolva every other day for about a week and then occasionally (when they felt sensitive) but that seems to have sorted out any potential issues!:)


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