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ironman 08-05-2015 07:12 PM

Synthol Injections almost cost this Bodybuilder his Life
 
We’ve all seen the destruction that synthol can have on someone’s body, leaving them with disproportionate muscles, gross bulges of all sorts at certain injection points, and leakage on stage when flexing. But this dude took it a step further and almost had his whole arm Amputated. His muscles eventually turned in rock hard flesh, in which his doctor then told him he’ll need to get his arms amputated.


stillgoingstron 08-05-2015 07:22 PM

Does anyone actually think he looks good?

new-Jedi 08-05-2015 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stillgoingstron (Post 41312)
Does anyone actually think he looks good?

I hope not, but then again, I'm starting to frown about how some of the Olympians are starting to look, with the gut. Don't get me wrong, they are all impressive. I just like the older look, more aesthetically pleasing.

andyebs 08-06-2015 08:36 AM

not sythol user or ever would but does have its place in moden bodybuilding

the gut isnt because of synthol

and i watch olympia and the arnolds not to watch some guy look really slim the kind of look quite lot of people can achieve and is probly most peoples goals
i watch it cos i love to see these mass monsters thats what its about

not that i would want to look like that myself yeah of course id rather have zane shape and size but lets face it he wouldnt make pro these days

new-Jedi 08-06-2015 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by andyebs (Post 41320)
not sythol user or ever would but does have its place in moden bodybuilding

the gut isnt because of synthol

and i watch olympia and the arnolds not to watch some guy look really slim the kind of look quite lot of people can achieve and is probly most peoples goals
i watch it cos i love to see these mass monsters thats what its about

not that i would want to look like that myself yeah of course id rather have zane shape and size but lets face it he wouldnt make pro these days

Yes I know, I was saying it was. It's HGH. I was just saying that that snthol look is awful, and the big dogs are starting to look bad too.at least aesthetically.


Yea, it's sad Zane would not make pros. Because he was near a Greek statue. I think that period was the golden age.

I think you hit it on the nail, people want to see these guys, as monsters. Because they are quite literally inhuman. No one can look like that without unbelievable cycles. It almost feels like watching it for the shock value.

They are impressive and all work hard.

Yet the symmetry these older guys had where impressive in another way. The days where I watched Mr. Olympia and think I want to look like that, those days are guy.

Don't get me wrong, I. A fan of Kai Greene, Yates, Cutler, etc. I just think now these guys have to go to such extremes to compete

Cornish_Celt 08-06-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by new-Jedi (Post 41322)
Yes I know, I was saying it was. It's HGH. I was just saying that that snthol look is awful, and the big dogs are starting to look bad too.at least aesthetically.


Yea, it's sad Zane would not make pros. Because he was near a Greek statue. I think that period was the golden age.

I think you hit it on the nail, people want to see these guys, as monsters. Because they are quite literally inhuman. No one can look like that without unbelievable cycles. It almost feels like watching it for the shock value.

They are impressive and all work hard.

Yet the symmetry these older guys had where impressive in another way. The days where I watched Mr. Olympia and think I want to look like that, those days are guy.

Don't get me wrong, I. A fan of Kai Greene, Yates, Cutler, etc. I just think now these guys have to go to such extremes to compete

I'd be interested to know what you think "unbelievable cycles" are?

andyebs 08-06-2015 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Cornish_Celt (Post 41323)
I'd be interested to know what you think "unbelievable cycles" are?

more like unbelievable genitics

new-Jedi 08-06-2015 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by andyebs (Post 41324)
more like unbelievable genitics

Agree they have great genetics, but I am not sure that's why they look different than Arnold or Zane. Im willing to say it is the drugs used today.

new-Jedi 08-06-2015 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornish_Celt (Post 41323)
I'd be interested to know what you think "unbelievable cycles" are?

I oviously don't know what each pro is using, but I've read that it can get pretty extreme.

I read this off of T-Nation as an example Pro-cycle, but even if that is inaccurate, I bet it's not too far off.

1-10 Testosterone Enanthate, 1000-1200mg a week.
1-10 EQ, 1000mg a week.
1-10 Tren E, 800mg/week
1-8  D-Bol, 100mg every day
10-16 100mg Testosterone prop EOD
10-16 100mg Trenbolone Acetate EOD
10-16 100mg Masteron propionate EOD
10-16 50mg Winstrol or Anavar ED, maybe both.
8-16 Start T3 at 25mcg ED
12-16 Halotestin, start at 20mg ED and increase by 10mg every week

Pharmaceutical GH 6-12 IU ED for the duration of cycle.

Insulin 


To me, that is extreme. And I'm not a fan off the modern look, not compared to Arnold, Reeves, Zane, or I even think Lou Ferrigno looks better than some of these guys. I perer something other than GH gut.

new-Jedi 08-06-2015 04:40 PM

Don't get me wrong, these guys are genetic beast, not everyone can pull that off. I just happen to agree with Arnold, modern look isn't as good as in the past.

Cornish_Celt 08-06-2015 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by new-Jedi (Post 41334)
I oviously don't know what each pro is using, but I've read that it can get pretty extreme.

I read this off of T-Nation as an example Pro-cycle, but even if that is inaccurate, I bet it's not too far off.

1-10 Testosterone Enanthate, 1000-1200mg a week.
1-10 EQ, 1000mg a week.
1-10 Tren E, 800mg/week
1-8  D-Bol, 100mg every day
10-16 100mg Testosterone prop EOD
10-16 100mg Trenbolone Acetate EOD
10-16 100mg Masteron propionate EOD
10-16 50mg Winstrol or Anavar ED, maybe both.
8-16 Start T3 at 25mcg ED
12-16 Halotestin, start at 20mg ED and increase by 10mg every week

Pharmaceutical GH 6-12 IU ED for the duration of cycle.

Insulin 


To me, that is extreme. And I'm not a fan off the modern look, not compared to Arnold, Reeves, Zane, or I even think Lou Ferrigno looks better than some of these guys. I perer something other than GH gut.

Thats actually a fairly normal cycle for an experienced user.
Pharma GH at that dosage is high though considering you get excellent results from pharma GH at 2 to 4iu per day, can't really see the point in that.

The problem nowadays is that people think more is better and thats complete crap, take Arnolds favourite cycle - 1000mg of Primobolan per week(that is a normal dose for Primo) and 50 to 70mg of Dianbol per day.
By todays standards that would be considered by most(especially forum know it alls) to be a pointless cycle However Primobolan is one of the best steroids you can get!

Dorian Yates Favourite cycle was Test, Deca and Dbol, again theres nothing unbelievable or extreme about that.

It's what you do a long side the steroids that makes the difference and of course what you do when you're not actually taking them.
Most people(although they will never admit it) don't bother when they're not on the gear.

new-Jedi 08-06-2015 06:44 PM

That makes perfect sense. I certainly wouldn't know if that is extreme. Just seemed like it to me. Maybe I should of called it advanced cycle, would that make a better terminology.?

So what does make the gut on the Olympians look the way it does? Is it the HGH. I know you know a lot about that.

That is the part I am iffy about, not really the size. I like the the nice cut looking core.

I had no clue that was a normal cycle. Then again, I have limited personal experience (extend to two pins of test e):). I like to think I'll keep it simple, what people used back in the day. I'm not against insulin & HGH outright, but concerned about the mid sections of the pros today.

realmuscle 08-12-2015 12:46 AM

The gut is due to the carb up process and the slin. And you have to understand when you eat as much as these guys eat in a normal day stomachs are going to get bigger.

Ftblk36 08-12-2015 12:56 AM

If that's all Dorian used I think that settles the genetic arguement......

lilgumby 08-12-2015 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by realmuscle (Post 41483)
The gut is due to the carb up process and the slin. And you have to understand when you eat as much as these guys eat in a normal day stomachs are going to get bigger.

That and hgh. Slin and hgh cause huge bloated guts . Then the abs separate from a big gut. If you look you can see how far apart a lot of their abs are

new-Jedi 08-12-2015 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ftblk36 (Post 41484)
If that's all Dorian used I think that settles the genetic arguement......

I would lean towards agreeing with you. Not everyone can use a cycle and end up looking like those guys. They are what happens when genetically gifted guys use cycles. I thought that cycles was crazy when I first read it, but I am on my first test e cycle. So I dont have anything to compare it too.:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilgumby (Post 41487)
That and hgh. Slin and hgh cause huge bloated guts . Then the abs separate from a big gut. If you look you can see how far apart a lot of their abs are

I read the same thing when we were discussing this the other day. I read it was HGH.

I don’t much care of the look now, but I get why they are doing it. Because if you want to win, you almost have to take that step. I watched a video where Arnold was speaking about this, and I got what he was saying. I wish they could find a happy medium.

ironman 09-10-2015 07:45 AM

LOL, no way!
Quote:

Originally Posted by stillgoingstron (Post 41312)
Does anyone actually think he looks good?


ironman 09-10-2015 07:46 AM

I agree and IMO best looking bodybuilders were Golden Age era.

Quote:

Originally Posted by new-Jedi (Post 41313)
I hope not, but then again, I'm starting to frown about how some of the Olympians are starting to look, with the gut. Don't get me wrong, they are all impressive. I just like the older look, more aesthetically pleasing.


ironman 09-10-2015 07:52 AM

Guts are from HGH that is correct however modern Pros use synthol and more and each year, look at Phil Heath's arms, simple unreal, I wonder how does some simple movements with those freaky arms...and that huge belly does interfere a lot with some normal daily movements like tie shoelacesююю

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyebs (Post 41320)
not sythol user or ever would but does have its place in moden bodybuilding

the gut isnt because of synthol

and i watch olympia and the arnolds not to watch some guy look really slim the kind of look quite lot of people can achieve and is probly most peoples goals
i watch it cos i love to see these mass monsters thats what its about

not that i would want to look like that myself yeah of course id rather have zane shape and size but lets face it he wouldnt make pro these days


ironman 09-10-2015 07:54 AM

I would say drugs, HGH and synthol or other similar oils...

Quote:

Originally Posted by new-Jedi (Post 41333)
Agree they have great genetics, but I am not sure that's why they look different than Arnold or Zane. Im willing to say it is the drugs used today.


ironman 09-10-2015 07:56 AM

100mg dbol day and 1200mg of test that may raise some high BP and affect your liver seriosly. Some are simple super healthy who dont react but most people will...

Quote:

Originally Posted by new-Jedi (Post 41334)
I oviously don't know what each pro is using, but I've read that it can get pretty extreme.

I read this off of T-Nation as an example Pro-cycle, but even if that is inaccurate, I bet it's not too far off.

1-10 Testosterone Enanthate, 1000-1200mg a week.
1-10 EQ, 1000mg a week.
1-10 Tren E, 800mg/week
1-8  D-Bol, 100mg every day
10-16 100mg Testosterone prop EOD
10-16 100mg Trenbolone Acetate EOD
10-16 100mg Masteron propionate EOD
10-16 50mg Winstrol or Anavar ED, maybe both.
8-16 Start T3 at 25mcg ED
12-16 Halotestin, start at 20mg ED and increase by 10mg every week

Pharmaceutical GH 6-12 IU ED for the duration of cycle.

Insulin 


To me, that is extreme. And I'm not a fan off the modern look, not compared to Arnold, Reeves, Zane, or I even think Lou Ferrigno looks better than some of these guys. I perer something other than GH gut.


new-Jedi 09-11-2015 08:52 AM

I hear that a lot about these monsters, and I can agree to an extent. But can you get huge, very huge, without ruining the aesthetics?

It wasn't that long ago that these competitors looked great. Not just like freaks. I think there are some even freakier looking monsters out there than these guys.

I just think it's gotten a little too much. If you can't put on size without ruining aesthetics, then what's the point.

If the entire thing was to be judged on size, then wouldnt we have an entirely different set of winners?

I don't think the biggest guy always wins, and using the judging criteria, the entire point seems to be about much more than getting big. Or at least supposed to be, I'm not positive they follow it. Politics plays a role.

Sometimes a 250lbs guy in great condition who looks aesthetic, yet he isn't a threat to win, but the guy who wins Mr Olympia might be 245lbs, decent look, but is way off in some poses. So shouldn't there be hundreds of factors like completeness, muscle shape, muscle control, and detail etc.

Kai Greene's issue is said to be conditioning. He has an awesome back and leg saturation, and his mass routinely sets him above most competitors—and his proportion and symmetry are unbelievable. But he comes in second, because of Phil's size of his arms and back, greater symmetry. I'm not exactly sure really, because I'd argue a few people looked more impressive than Phil last year.

If any of then had 3/4 the size, but walked up looking cut and guts not looking like they do now, I'd vote for them any day.

I guess I just don't think the extra size is as impressive as a great looking physique.


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