16 week Cruizer - Steroids Source Talk

bala68 · #1 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 11:29 AM

Hello everybody and thanks in advance for taking the time to read and maybe also help me with some insight.
So here is what i am planning to do for the next 16 weeks:

250mg test e e5d
80mg anavar ed
75mg winstrol oral ed
50mg proviron ed

I am 43,178cm,92kg,15%Bf

Goal is to gain some lean muscle but mainly to bring Bf% down.
Last cycle has been finished 3 months ago and it was with 750mgtesto e,400mg eq,50mg dbol ed(1 month on 1 month off) and it lasted 4 moths.
for the last 3 months i'm taking 250mg testo e e5d(trt) and 60mg avavar ed.
I work out 5x a week 1-2 muscle groups 18-24 sets per workout and i try to eat clean.
Help and ideas are welcome and apreciated

Cornish_Celt · #2 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 12:33 PM

Welcome to the forum.

I completely agree with KF,
Test up to 500mg per week
6 weeks on the Var and Winny(is how I would it)
That would be 6 weeks of Winny at the beginning of the cycle and 6 weeks of Var at the end running up to PCT.

But most important is diet and cardio!

Can you do a break down of your training so we can see what you are doing

bala68 · #3 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 01:37 PM

First of all i want to thank you both for taking up my thread so fast.Also i want to apologize for not introducing myself propperly.
I am from greece,i am 43 years old and at this moment i weigh 92kg,15% bf and im 176cm tall.
In my younger days i used to play hockey in germany,where i was born and raised, as a semi pro but at the age of 29 i had a very bad knee injury that forced me to retire.
After that i focused on my job and with the time the visits at the gym and the evening runs became less and less.
The result was that 3 years ago i was so fat that i couldnt tie my shoes.I was 120kg,heavily drinking and smoking.(I will add a pic of me the pig

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So at the day i tried to bent down to tie my shoes but it wouldnt work i decided to do something.
I managed to lose 37kg(thats approx. 80lbs) in 1 year with a tough diet,cardio everyday 60-120 minutes,sometimes 2 times a day.
After losing this weight i started going to the gym and now i am hooked.
Lucky as i am i met a nabba pro who helped me with workout planning,diet and cycling.It was clear for me that after the diet i will do AAS because i wanted to keep the weight relatively low but also wanted to become bigger considering the muscles.The most important thing though for taking the step to AAS was rejuvenation and recreation.
So for the last 18 months im on and off.After my second cycle i had some trouble with fat and water during and after pct so i decided that i will stay on a trt since i am 43 now and i allready have 3 kids and i would rather become a grandpa than make another on my own.
I hope this is enough background for you.If you need to know more please feel free to ask.

My workout routine:

Mon: chest *
Tue: Back *
Wed:Cardio 40-60 minutes
Thu: shoulders *
Fri:arms,3 supersets bi-and triceps
Sat:Legs&calfs *
Sun:cardio 60-120 minutes.

*=4-5 different exercises 3-4 sets each,16-10 reps

Diet:
I have to admit that the diet is my biggest problem.What i have realised is that i have a serious problem with carbs.As soon as i eat rice or pasta i start keeping water an i also start to look fatty.This of course makes me pretty mad.Lets keep in mind that i recently lost about 80lbs.So i keep them as low as i can.
I try to eat 300gramms of protein every day,3 meals and 2 shakes.
Lots of meat,fish,fruits and veggies and also low fat yoghurt.

Ok,i think i got it all together now but dont mind asking if you need to know more.
Thanks again and i hope the stay here will remain as pleasant as it started for me

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bala68 · #4 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 01:49 PM

Now i have a question:
due to my guru here anavar can be taken through the whole year and the winstrol is according to him no problem either as long as my joints dont hurt or i am getting cramps.
Please explain why you wouldnt take them for more than 8 weeks?

eazy · #5 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 06:33 PM

Bump CC and Kornfed 500mg of test and 8 weeks of var at 100mg

Cornish_Celt · #6 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 06:45 PM

Personally I wouldn't run 2 orals at the same time, it's extra stress on the liver even if they are considered safe!

SkinnyGuy · #7 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 07:33 PM

outta curiosity did that guru that you mentioned tell you to do - (750mgtesto e,400mg eq,50mg dbol ed(1 month on 1 month off) and it lasted 4 moths).... cause i see some issues with that. test e doesnt really start working till about four weeks and eq you need to take for and even longer period of time for it to be effective(from what i understand). Also you have been taking anavar ed for the last 3 months?? not to mention you did not mention any ancileries?? IDK man i would double check any info that guy is giving you...

He might be reaking havoc on your body!!!

If your running TRT just try and stick to test e,c, and p alone between blasts.

A for your next cycle and your goals CC and all of the above(our guru's) are correct move the test dose up to at least 500 a week if you did 750 last cycle why not do that again. If you want to stretch the cycle out more you can run eq again since you probably did not even get a chance to see the effects. and maybe one oral like var at the end--not sure on var. Orals other dbol and maybe halotestin i probably will never use. I like pinning!

bala68 · #8 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 08:41 PM

only the dbol was 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off

bala68 · #9 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 08:44 PM

anciliaries were liver care(milkthistle),omega 3 and multivitamis

Yes,i am on 250 test e e5d and 60 mg anavar the last 3 months.

SkinnyGuy · #10 (**permalink**) 09-29-2011, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bala68

only the dbol was 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off

sorry man i mis understood