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You're doing way too much!
Forget Stoppani and forget Jay Cutler workouts, you're not a pro.

You need to go back to basics
12 sets for large muscle groups like chest back and legs.
9 sets for smaller muscle groups - biceps, triceps and shoulders.

large muscle groups - 4 sets of 8 to 10 reps per exercise
smaller muscle groups - 3 sets of 8 to 12 reps

Train for 30 to 45 minutes(absolute maximum 1 hour) You're training to build muscle not for endurance.

Eat proper food and use a decent protein shake you don't need all the other crap, it's just wasting money - you get all the nutrients you need from eating properly.

You are eating no where near enough to grow, you don't need to eat as much as I do(the diet I showed you in the other post) but you seriously need to increase your intake if you want to grow.
There are no excuses like I don't have enough time or I can't eat that much, it's simple you don't eat you don't grow so you have to make the time.
I have time to eat, and if I cut my gym time in half like you say, I'll have even more time. I just need weekends off from training during school. I premake almost all my meals on Sunday, it won't be difficult adding more.

I tried it my way, didn't work as well as it used too. Willing to try it another way. And Dr, Stoppani only wants to sell me supps.

Any thought on which brands provide a decent protein shake?
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Old 08-09-2015, 08:59 AM
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I have time to eat, and if I cut my gym time in half like you say, I'll have even more time. I just need weekends off from training during school. I premake almost all my meals on Sunday, it won't be difficult adding more.

I tried it my way, didn't work as well as it used too. Willing to try it another way. And Dr, Stoppani only wants to sell me supps.

Any thought on which brands provide a decent protein shake?
weekends off is fine, just train monday to friday or train monday and tuesday, have wednesday off and train thursday and friday and have the weekend off, both work well.

What brands of protein can you get, give me a list and I'll tell you which is best
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weekends off is fine, just train monday to friday or train monday and tuesday, have wednesday off and train thursday and friday and have the weekend off, both work well.

What brands of protein can you get, give me a list and I'll tell you which is best
Oh, I order from bodybuilding.com, I don't know if any I can't get.

Optimun Nutrition, a Muscle Tech, Pro-JYM, BSN Syntha 6, Cellucor, GNC, Dymatize, Universal Nutrition ANIMAL whey, and muscle pharm. they have many others too.

I've also looked into brands like MTS Nutrition Machine Whey, but had no reference point.

I would try any though.
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You can get by without a spotter.
Squats are probably the best exercise you can do and if you do sets of 20 reps, then the weight shouldn't really crush you. Save the 2 to 5 rep heavy stuff for later.
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You don't need a spotter, you can get by without one
If you do need one for heavy squats or bench press just ask the guy next to you in the gym most guys will be happy to help out.
Haha just read that! Wasn't plagiarising honest. Yeah I had to look the word up after I found it on muscle guru

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I've just had a super fast read through and just want to make a quick point . . . The steroids are the icing. You need to make the cake first. There is no magic point. It's an ongoing week in week out year in year out regime. Changing routines and even taking a week off is all part of that regime. Steroids will just help you recover from lifting heavier and harder and it will still take time to get to heavier and harder.


How often do you take time off?
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A lot more than most but then again I am 54. It's really an individual thing. I'm just saying that if you or anyone else stops making progress you or anyone else should consider the possibility of over training rather than automatically increasing the workload yet again.
As you're about to start benefitting from steroids this might not apply in a few weeks though.
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Oh, I order from bodybuilding.com, I don't know if any I can't get.

Optimun Nutrition, a Muscle Tech, Pro-JYM, BSN Syntha 6, Cellucor, GNC, Dymatize, Universal Nutrition ANIMAL whey, and muscle pharm. they have many others too.

I've also looked into brands like MTS Nutrition Machine Whey, but had no reference point.

I would try any though.
BSN Syntha-6
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Can u order from Amazon I live in states can get everything in two days usually a lot cheaper


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Can u order from Amazon I live in states can get everything in two days usually a lot cheaper


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Hmm, I never even considered Amazon. I should of. My school has a partnership with them, giving me a discount and free shipping. Thanks for the tip.
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