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Old 10-17-2016, 01:50 PM
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got training come up with for me and training mate hes main aim is to add size everywhere but very very needed on legs
im always wanting better legs and need some size around arms

we talked about and plan is 8-10 weeks of strength type training with legs split twice week
followed by 10x10 training

so sort of chucked this together and wondered what people thought
Cornish Celt help us out

mon
flat bench 5x5
incline 5x5
fly 5x5
dumbbell overhead 5x5
rope pushdown 5x5

tue
squats 5x5
stiff leg 5x5
standing ham curl 5x5
laying ham curl 5x5
seated calf raise 5x5
standing calf raise 5x5
(mor ham focus )

weds
wide grip pull ups 5x5
dumbbell row 5x5
deadlift 5x5
wide grip tbar row 5x5
concertration curl 5x5
ez bar curl 5x5

thrs
squats 5x5
leg press 5x5
leg press calf raise 5x5
leg curl 5x5
lunges 5x5
seated calf raise 5x5
(more quad focus)

Friday
barbell/dumbbell press 5x5
side raise 5x5
rear delt machine 5x5
shrugs 5x5
triceip rope pushdown 5x5
ez bar curl 5x5


right when come to 10 x 10 I have never done and have no idea so any help would be great

really need to pack size on over next 20 weeks to be where I am aiming for next year

cycle along with this will be

test/deca 750/750mg
anadrol to start prob no higher that 100 as first time and no longer than 6 weeks hoping strength will be up and make most of training
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You know me mate. I think that's far too much but if it works all well and good. But if after 4 or 5 weeks you start to plateau then I suggest you have a rethink and decrease it a bit.

Good luck though
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You know me mate. I think that's far too much but if it works all well and good. But if after 4 or 5 weeks you start to plateau then I suggest you have a rethink and decrease it a bit.

Good luck though
we both did think was too much as only train lunch times so hr max is time we have
suppose will give try and adjust if not suited

think more about time
as with 10 x 10 take it will get 1 or 2 exercise per body part in an hr so looking for suggestions there too
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5 x 5 should be done in the following manner, what you have there is way to much for a 5 x 5 program.

Monday:
Olympic Squats - 5 x 5 reps
Bench Press - 5 x 5 reps
Barbell Rows - 5 x 5 reps
Accessory exercise: weighted sit-ups - 5-8 reps
Accessory exercise: a tricep exercise - 5-8 reps

Wednesday:
Olympic Squats - 5 x 5 reps
Bench Press - 5 x 5 reps
Barbell Rows - 5 x 5 reps
Accessory exercise: weighted sit-ups - 5-8 reps
Accessory exercise: a tricep exercise - 5-8 reps

Friday:
Olympic Squats - 5 x 5 reps
Bench Press - 5 x 5 reps
Barbell Row - 5 x 5 reps
Accessory exercise: a tricep exercise - 5-8 reps
Accessory exercise: an abdominal exercise - 5-8 reps


Essentially this workout is designed to hit your muscles hard three times per week and then allow enough time to promote growth and recovery. It was designed for strength athletes because one of the most common effects seen by it is an increase in strength.

Along with the strength however you will most often see an increase in muscle mass as well, provided you are eating enough calories to support this muscle growth.


Prep Work:
During the first week of the training program you should error on the cautious side to make sure your body has a chance to grow accustomed to this type of training. It is likely going to be something you aren't used to so you need to allow for adaptation to take place.

Choosing Your Weight:
During this week you will pick a weight that you can do for a total of 5 sets with 5 reps. This weight shouldn't be so easy that you feel you could do a lot more than that but likewise it shouldn't be so hard that you are not able to complete the given protocol.


As with any program you need to ensure you have proper pre and post workout nutrition while doing this. The workouts are going to take a lot out of your body so providing them with the nutrients to fuel the activity as well as recovery from it is essential if you hope to make progress.

One of the most essential factors of this program is that you do in fact do 5 sets of 5 reps. It is a key factor in the success of the program and must be followed.

Before starting the first week it would be a good idea to set a 5 rep max for each of the exercises (as described later) so that you know what weight it is you are specifically trying to beat. During the first week you want to use a lesser weight since obviously you do have 5 sets to complete rather than just the one you used for your rep max test.

Bumping It Up:
If after the first week you have managed to successfully complete all your sets at a specified weight then bump it up 5-10 pounds for the following week. Again here, if you bump it up and are not able to successfully complete all the reps with proper form then this is too high of an increase and you need to be more moderate.

If you have really been struggling to lift the amount of weight you were using however then you will want to keep it the same for one more week and then hopefully after that you can raise it higher.

By the time you hit weeks 4-6 you will hopefully be setting new rep maxes and will be seeing a significant increase in strength, provided you are in a caloric surplus. You can sometimes still see strength increases even if you are in a deficit however it is much more unlikely, especially among advanced individuals.

Peaking Phase:
After you have finished with this prep phase (ending after week 4-6) it is then time to move onto the peaking phase. What you will do for the first two weeks is drop your sets and reps down to more of a 3X3 set-up. This will allow you to push each set even harder and therefore hopefully lift more weight, thus upping your max.

You may also want to only perform the squats twice per week rather than three times to allow for extra recovery since the large leg muscles take longer; especially while lifting with such intensity.

During these few weeks the most important thing you must focus on, even moreso than getting in the reps, is the weight increases. This is your peaking phase after all so you want to be pushing yourself to new levels.

Finally for the last week of the cycle you can take it down to one set of three for 2-to-3 workouts and maybe even try for single reps maxes at the end. It should be noted though that not everyone will choose to do the single rep maxes, one set of three or even the 2-3 weeks of 3X3 set-up.

If you choose to end the cycle after the initial 4-6 weeks of 5X5 that is alright too and in some cases, such as for those who are training for sports, the intensity levels during the peak phases are just too much for them to handle along with their other physical pursuits.
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