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Old 08-06-2015, 05:41 PM
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I oviously don't know what each pro is using, but I've read that it can get pretty extreme.

I read this off of T-Nation as an example Pro-cycle, but even if that is inaccurate, I bet it's not too far off.

1-10 Testosterone Enanthate, 1000-1200mg a week.
1-10 EQ, 1000mg a week.
1-10 Tren E, 800mg/week
1-8  D-Bol, 100mg every day
10-16 100mg Testosterone prop EOD
10-16 100mg Trenbolone Acetate EOD
10-16 100mg Masteron propionate EOD
10-16 50mg Winstrol or Anavar ED, maybe both.
8-16 Start T3 at 25mcg ED
12-16 Halotestin, start at 20mg ED and increase by 10mg every week

Pharmaceutical GH 6-12 IU ED for the duration of cycle.

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To me, that is extreme. And I'm not a fan off the modern look, not compared to Arnold, Reeves, Zane, or I even think Lou Ferrigno looks better than some of these guys. I perer something other than GH gut.
Thats actually a fairly normal cycle for an experienced user.
Pharma GH at that dosage is high though considering you get excellent results from pharma GH at 2 to 4iu per day, can't really see the point in that.

The problem nowadays is that people think more is better and thats complete crap, take Arnolds favourite cycle - 1000mg of Primobolan per week(that is a normal dose for Primo) and 50 to 70mg of Dianbol per day.
By todays standards that would be considered by most(especially forum know it alls) to be a pointless cycle However Primobolan is one of the best steroids you can get!

Dorian Yates Favourite cycle was Test, Deca and Dbol, again theres nothing unbelievable or extreme about that.

It's what you do a long side the steroids that makes the difference and of course what you do when you're not actually taking them.
Most people(although they will never admit it) don't bother when they're not on the gear.
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That makes perfect sense. I certainly wouldn't know if that is extreme. Just seemed like it to me. Maybe I should of called it advanced cycle, would that make a better terminology.?

So what does make the gut on the Olympians look the way it does? Is it the HGH. I know you know a lot about that.

That is the part I am iffy about, not really the size. I like the the nice cut looking core.

I had no clue that was a normal cycle. Then again, I have limited personal experience (extend to two pins of test e). I like to think I'll keep it simple, what people used back in the day. I'm not against insulin & HGH outright, but concerned about the mid sections of the pros today.
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The gut is due to the carb up process and the slin. And you have to understand when you eat as much as these guys eat in a normal day stomachs are going to get bigger.
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If that's all Dorian used I think that settles the genetic arguement......
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The gut is due to the carb up process and the slin. And you have to understand when you eat as much as these guys eat in a normal day stomachs are going to get bigger.
That and hgh. Slin and hgh cause huge bloated guts . Then the abs separate from a big gut. If you look you can see how far apart a lot of their abs are
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If that's all Dorian used I think that settles the genetic arguement......
I would lean towards agreeing with you. Not everyone can use a cycle and end up looking like those guys. They are what happens when genetically gifted guys use cycles. I thought that cycles was crazy when I first read it, but I am on my first test e cycle. So I dont have anything to compare it too.

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That and hgh. Slin and hgh cause huge bloated guts . Then the abs separate from a big gut. If you look you can see how far apart a lot of their abs are
I read the same thing when we were discussing this the other day. I read it was HGH.

I don’t much care of the look now, but I get why they are doing it. Because if you want to win, you almost have to take that step. I watched a video where Arnold was speaking about this, and I got what he was saying. I wish they could find a happy medium.
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LOL, no way!
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I agree and IMO best looking bodybuilders were Golden Age era.

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I hope not, but then again, I'm starting to frown about how some of the Olympians are starting to look, with the gut. Don't get me wrong, they are all impressive. I just like the older look, more aesthetically pleasing.
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Guts are from HGH that is correct however modern Pros use synthol and more and each year, look at Phil Heath's arms, simple unreal, I wonder how does some simple movements with those freaky arms...and that huge belly does interfere a lot with some normal daily movements like tie shoelacesююю

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not sythol user or ever would but does have its place in moden bodybuilding

the gut isnt because of synthol

and i watch olympia and the arnolds not to watch some guy look really slim the kind of look quite lot of people can achieve and is probly most peoples goals
i watch it cos i love to see these mass monsters thats what its about

not that i would want to look like that myself yeah of course id rather have zane shape and size but lets face it he wouldnt make pro these days
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I would say drugs, HGH and synthol or other similar oils...

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Agree they have great genetics, but I am not sure that's why they look different than Arnold or Zane. Im willing to say it is the drugs used today.
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